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Topic: The Aircraft Performance Thread!!
Posted By: Slopey
Subject: The Aircraft Performance Thread!!
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 8:33am
If you import Aircarft into AirHauler, and have found more performance data on the net for that aircraft, please post it in here to help other pilots and save them having to find it :)



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Posted By: BradS
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 1:23pm
DeHaviland DHC6 Twin Otter (Model 100 - 300)

  1. http://www.zimex.ch/media/7485/aircraft_spec_twinotter.pdf - DHC-6 Specification Sheet
  2. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/docs/a9ea.pdf - FAA's Type Certification datasheet :
  3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-6_Twin_Otter - WikiPedia
  4. http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/aircraft_otter.htm - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)

There are some variances between the above sources, but are fairly small.


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Posted By: BradS
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 1:30pm
Pilatus PC-12

  1. http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/media/Pilatus-PC-12-Just-The-Facts.pdf - Pilatus Factory Specification Sheet
  2. http://www.scribd.com/doc/12645282/Technical-Description-PC12 - ePaper Specification Sheet
While these are for the PC-12NG, they are fairly equivalent to the currently flying PC-12's.


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Posted By: Herege
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 8:30pm
Performance Data - Manufacturer List for :
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listAeronca.shtml - Aeronca
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listAerospatiale-Socata.shtml - Aerospatiale - Socata
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listAerostar.shtml - Aerostar
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listAmericanChampion.shtml - American Champion
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listAmericanGeneral.shtml - American General / Grumman
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listBeech.shtml - Beechcraft
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listBellanca.shtml - Bellanca
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listCessna.shtml - Cessna
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listCommander.shtml - Commander
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listLake.shtml - Lake
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listLuscombe.shtml - Luscombe
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listMaule.shtml - Maule
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listMooney.shtml - Mooney
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listPiper.shtml - Piper
  • http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/info/listPZL.shtml - PZL

I will put more ASAP! ;)



Posted By: mutley
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 8:35pm
Excellent post Herege Thumbs%20Up

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Posted By: Herege
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:13pm

General Technical Characteristics for 747 Family:

  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/747-8_fact_sheet.html - 747-8
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_400_prod.html - 747-400
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_400er_prod.html - 747-400ER
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_400f_prod.html - 747-400 Freighter
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_400erf_prod.html - 747-400ER Freighter
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_400sf_prod.html - 747-400 Boeing Converted Freighter
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_400c_prod.html - 747-400 Combi
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_domestic_prod.html - 747-400 Domestic
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_classics.html#300 - 747-300
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_classics.html#200 - 747-200
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_classics.html - 747-100


Posted By: Herege
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:15pm

General Technical Characteristics for 767 Family:

  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/pf/pf_200prod.html - 767-200ER
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/pf/pf_300prod.html - 767-300ER
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/pf/pf_400prod.html - 767-400ER
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/pf/pf_300f_prod.html - 767-300 Freighter


Posted By: Herege
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:17pm

General Technical Characteristics 777 Family: 

  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_200product.html - 777-200/-200ER
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_300product.html - 777-300
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_lrproduct.html - Longer-Range 777s
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_freighter_product.html - 777 Freighter


Posted By: Herege
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:23pm

General Technical Characteristics 737 Family:

  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/pf/pf_600tech.html - 737-600
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/pf/pf_700tech.html - 737-700
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/pf/pf_700ctech.html - 737-700C
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/737-700ER/tech.html - 737-700ER
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/pf/pf_800tech.html - 737-800
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737family/pf/pf_900ERtech.html - 737-900ER
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/plan_manuals.html - Out-of-Production Models


Posted By: Herege
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:26pm

General Techical Characteristics 787 Dreamliner Family:

  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/787-3prod.html - 787-3 Dreamliner
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/787-8prod.html - 787-8 Dreamliner
  • http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/787-9prod.html - 787-9 Dreamliner


  • Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:30pm
    Airbus A400M
     

    Data from Airbus Military specifications:

    General characteristics

    • Crew: 3 or 4 (2 pilots, 3rd optional, 1 loadmaster)
    • Capacity:
      • 37,000 kg (82,000 lb)
      • 116 fully equipped troops / paratroops,
      • up to 66 stretchers accompanied by 25 medical personnel
    • Length: 43.8 m (143 ft 8 in)
    • Wingspan: 42.4 m (139 ft 1 in)
    • Height: 14.6 m (47 ft 11 in)
    • Empty weight: 70 tonnes (154,000 lb)
    • Max takeoff weightt: 141 tonnes (310,852 lb)
    • Powerplant: 4× EuroProp International TP4000-D6 turboprop, 8,250 kW (11,000 hp) each
    • Total Internal Fuel: 46.7 tonnes (103,000 lb)
    • Max. Landing Weight: 114 tonnes (251,000 lb)

    Performance

    • Cruise speed: 780 km/h (420 kt, 485 mph Mach 0.68 - 0.72)
    • Initial Cruise Altitude: at MTOW: 9,000 m (29,000 ft))
    • Range: 3,300 km (1,782 nmi) at max payload (long range cruise speed; reserves as per MIL-C-5011A)
      • Range at 30-tonne payload: 4,800 km (2,592 nmi)
      • Range at 20-tonne payload: 6,950 km (3,753 nmi)
    • Ferry range: 9,300 km (5,022 nmi)
    • Service ceiling: 11,300 m (37,000 ft)
      Maximum Operating Altitude: 12,000 m (40,000 ft)
    • Tactical Takeoff Distance: 940 m (3,080 ft) (aircraft weight 100 tonnes, soft field, ISA, sea level)
    • Tactical Landing Distance: 625 m (2,050 ft) (as above)
    • Turning Radius (Ground): 28.6 m


    Posted By: chelseamad
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:36pm
    Great work Herege it is much appreciated.
     
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    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:43pm

    Lancastrian C.1

    General characteristics

    • Crew: 5
    • Capacity: 9 passengers
    • Payload: 3,560 kg of mail ()
    • Length: 76 ft 10 in (23.4 m)
    • Wingspan: 102 ft (31.1 m)
    • Height: 19 ft 6 in (5.9 m)
    • Wing area: 1,297 ft² (120.5 m²)
    • Empty weight: 30,426 lb (13,800 kg)
    • Loaded weight: 65,000 lb (29,480 kg)
    • Powerplant:Rolls Royce Merlin 12 piston, 1,250 hp (930 kW) each

    Performance

    • Maximum speed: 310 mph at 5,000 ft (500 km/h at 1,520 m)
    • Range: 4,150 miles (6,680 km)
    • Service ceiling: 23,000 ft (7,000 m)
    • Rate of climb: 750 ft/min (230 m/min)


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:45pm

    Specifications Avro Lancaster

    General characteristics
    • Crew: 7: pilot, flight engineer, navigator, bomb aimer, wireless operator, mid-upper and rear gunners
    • Length: 69 ft 5 in (21.18 m)
    • Wingspan: 102 ft (31.09 m)
    • Height: 19 ft 7 in (5.97 m)
    • Wing area: 1,300 ft² (120 m²)
    • Empty weight: 36 828 lb (16,705 kg)
    • Loaded weight: 63,000 lb (29,000 kg)
    • Powerplant:Rolls-Royce Merlin XX V12 engines, 1,280 hp (954 kW) each

    Performance

    • Maximum speed: 240 knots (280 mph, 450 km/h) at 15,000 ft (5,600 m)
    • Range: 2,700 NM (3,000 mi, 4,600 km) with minimal bomb load
    • Service ceiling: 23,500 ft (8,160 m)
    • Wing loading: 48 lb/ft² (240 kg/m²)
    • Power/mass: 0.082 hp/lb (130 W/kg)


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:47pm
    Specifications (Avro York)

    Data from Jane's Fighting Aircraft of World War II

    General characteristics
    • Crew: 5 (two pilots, navigator, wireless operator, cabin steward)
    • Capacity: 56 passengers
    • Payload: 20,000 lb (9100 kg)
    • Length: 78 ft 6 in (23.9 m)
    • Wingspan: 102 ft 0 in (31.1 m)
    • Height: 16 ft 6 in (5 m)
    • Wing area: 1,297 ft² (120.5 m²)
    • Empty weight: 40,000 lb (18,150 kg)
    • Loaded weight: 65,000 lb (29,480 kg)
    • Powerplant:Rolls-Royce Merlin 24 liquid-cooled V12 engines, 1,280 hp (950 kW) each

    Performance

    • Maximum speed: 298 mph (258 knots, 479 km/h) at 21,000 ft (6,400 m)
    • Range: 3,000 mi (2,600 nm, 4,800 km)
    • Service ceiling: 23,000 ft (7,010 m)
    • Rate of climb: 820 ft/min (4.2 m/s)
    • Wing loading: 54 lb/ft² (260 kg/m²)
    • Power/mass: 0.079 hp/lb (130 W/kg)


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:49pm
    Specifications: Super Guppy Turbine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B-377.svg -

    General characteristics

    • Crew: Four
    • Length: 143 ft 10 in (43.84 m)
    • Wingspan: 156 ft 3 in (47.625 m)
    • Height: 46 ft 5 in (14.148 m)
    • Empty weight: 101,500 lb (46,039 kg)
    • Useful load: 54,500 lb (24,720 kg)
    • Max takeoff weight: 170,000 lb (77,110 kg)
    • Powerplant:Allison 501-D22C turboprops, 4,680 hp (3,491 kW) each
    • * Cargo bay dimensions: 111 ft x 25 ft x 25 ft (33.8 m x 7.62 m x 7.62 m)

    Performance

    • Cruise speed: 252 knots (288 mph, 467 km/h)
    • Range: 1,734 nm (1,986 mi, 3,219 km)
    • Service ceiling: 32,000 ft (9,753.6 m)


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:53pm
    Airbus A380 and A380F
     
    Measurement A380-800 A380-800F
    Cockpit crew Two
    Seating capacity 525 (3-class)
    644 (2-class)
    853 (1-class)
    12 couriers
    Length 73 m (240 ft)
    Span 79.8 m (262 ft)
    Height 24.1 m (79 ft)
    Wheelbase 30.4 m (100 ft)
    Outside fuselage width 7.14 m (23.4 ft)
    Cabin width 6.58 m (21.6 ft) for Main deck
    5.92 m (19.4 ft) for Upper deck
    Wing area 845 m2 (9,100 sq ft)
    Wing sweep 33.5°
    Operating empty weight 276,800 kg (610,000 lb) 252,200 kg (556,000 lb)
    Maximum take-off weight 560,000 kg (1,200,000 lb) 590,000 kg (1,300,000 lb)
    Maximum payload 90,800 kg (200,000 lb) 152,400 kg (336,000 lb)
    Cruising speed Mach 0.85
    (903 km/h, 561 mph, 487 knots)
    Maximum cruising speed Mach 0.89
    (945 km/h, 587 mph, 510 knots)
    Maximum speed Mach 0.96
    (1020 km/h, 634 mph, 551 knots)
    Take off run at MTOW 2,750 m (9,000 ft) 2,900 m (9,500 ft)
    Range at design load 15,200 km (8,200 nmi, 9,400 mi) 10,400 km (5,600 nmi, 6,400 mi)
    Service ceiling 13,115 m (43,030 ft)
    Maximum fuel capacity 310,000 l
    (81,890 US gal, 68,200 imp gal)
    310,000 l
    (81,890 US gal, 68,200 imp gal),
    356,000 l
    (94,000 US gal, 78,300 imp gal) option
    Engines (4 x) GP7270 (A380-861)
    Trent 970/B (A380-841)
    Trent 972/B(A380-842)
    GP7277 (A380-863F)
    Trent 977/B (A380-843F)
    Thrust (4 x) 311 kN (70,000 lbf)
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    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:55pm

    Measurement

    A300-600ST BELUGA
    Length 56.15 m (184 ft. 3 in.)
    Span 44.84 m. (147 ft. 2 in.)
    Height 17.24 m. (56 ft. 7 in.)
    Wing area 122.40 m². (1,317 ft².)
    Fuselage diameter 3.95 m. (13 ft.)
    7.1 m. (23 ft. 4 in.)in cargo compartment
    Weight empty 86.0 t.
    Maximum take-off weight 155 t.
    Range (40 ton payload)   2,779 km. (1500 nm.)
    Range (26 ton payload)   4,632 km. (2500 nm.)
    Engines   GE CF6-80C2A8
    Cargo capacity   47 t.
    Cargo volume   1,210m³
    Cockpit Crew Two


    Posted By: BradS
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:56pm
    The specific performance information that is needed is:
    1. Cruise Speed (knots)
    2. Fuel Consumption (Gallons/hour)
    3. Range (nautical miles)
    4. Vfe - maximum speed flaps extension
    5. Vle - maximum speed landing gear
    You may need to dig around in the sources given here in this thread to find this specific info.



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    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 10:57pm
    Specifications (An-225)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:An-225_3-view.png -

    Data from Vectorsite, Antonov's Heavy Transports

    General characteristics

    • Crew: 6
    • Payload: 250,000 kg (550,000 lb)
    • Door dimensions: 440 x 640 cm (14.4 x 21.0 ft)
    • Length: 84 m (275.6 ft)
    • Wingspan: 88.40 m (290 ft 2 in)
    • Height: 18.1 m (59.3 ft)
    • Wing area: 905.0 m² (9,743.7 ft²)
    • Cargo Volume: 1300 m³ (45913.8 ft³)
    • Empty weight: 175,000 kg (385,800 lb)
    • Max takeoff weight: 600,000 kg (1,323,000 lb)
    • Powerplant:ZMKB Progress D-18 turbofans, 229.5 kN (51,600 lbf) each
    • Takeoff run: 3,500 m (11,500 ft) with maximum payload

    Performance

    • Maximum speed: 850 km/h (460 knots, 530 mph)
    • Cruise speed: 800 km/h (430 knots, 500 mph)
    • Range:
      • With maximum fuel: 15,400 km (9,570 mi)
      • With maximum payload: 4,000 km (2,500 mi)
    • Service ceiling: 11,000 m (36,100 ft)
    • Wing loading: 662.9 kg/m² (135.5 lb/ft²)
    • Thrust/weight: 0.234


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 11:04pm
    Type
    Make / Model
    Max Payload
    Tonnes
    Max Loadable Volume CBM3 Cargo Hold Dims
    LxWxH cm
    Cargo Door Size
    WxH cm
    Beech 200 Kingair 1.2 5 280 x 124 x 138 132 x 138
    Cessna 406 Titan 1.2 6.5 320 x 120 x 117 124 x 116
    Fairchild Metroliner II 1.4 12 835 x 115 x 120 130 x 132
    Fairchild Metroliner III 2.1 12 775 x 158 x 145 130 x 132
    Fairchild Metroliner 23 2.3 18 775 x 158 x 145 127 x 132
    Falcon 20 / 200 2.5 11 704 x 156 x 142 190 x 140
    Shorts 360 3.5 40 815 x 190 x 190 142 x 168
    Aerospatiale ATR42 4.6 40 1080 x 225 x 143 125 x 153
    Fokker 27 6 58 1336 x 210 x 190 228 x 175
    Antonov AN-26 6.5 45 1110 x 220 x 160 230 x 171
    Antonov AN-74 6.5 45 1000 x 215 x 220 226 x 220
    British Aerospace ATP 8.2 78 1500 x 195 x 180 250 x 169
    Boeing 737-200F 15 105 2100 x 310 x 220 340 x 215
    Lockheed L-188 Electra 15 135 2000 x 280 x 220 355 x 203
    Antonov AN-12 18 90 1380 x 300 x 250 300 x 250
    Lockheed L-100 Hercules 21 140 1707 x 302 x 274 302 x 274
    Boeing 727-200F 23.5 144 2712 x 351 x 218 340 x 218
    Boeing 757F 39 187 3327 x 353 x 218 340 x 218
    Douglas DC8-54/55 41 180 3100 x 317 x 203 355 x 215
    Airbus A300 B4F 43.5 280 3900 x 477 x 223 358 x 256
    Ilyushin IL-76 45 180 1850 x 345 x 325 344 x 340
    Douglas DC8-62 45 200 3400 x 317 x 203 355 x 215
    Antonov AN-22 50 650 2640 x 430 x 430 430 x 430
    Lockheed L10-11 Tristar 55 420 3300 x 360 x 274 431 x 284
    Boeing 767-300F 60 454 3000 x 400 x 250 340 x 254
    Douglas DC10-30 65 451 3725 x 356 x 234 350 x 260
    McDonnell Douglas MD11 80 642 4800 x 350 x 245 355 x 259
    Boeing 747-100F 96 724 4800 x 317 x 304 340 x 312
    Boeing 747-200F 110 725 4900 x 317 x 304 340 x 312
    Boeing 747-300/400F 120 764 5000 x 317 x 304 340 x 312
    Antonov AN-124 120 800 3650 x 640 x 440 640 x 440
    Antonov AN-225 250


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 11:06pm
    Is not easy find all info that we need, like you point: 2), 4), and 5). But I think this can help many of us to setup some needed infor for our cargo aircrafts.


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 11:17pm
    Specifications (SHORTS 360-100)
    • Crew: Three (Two pilots plus one cabin crew)
    • Capacity: 36 passengers
    • Length: 70 ft 10 in (21.59 m)
    • Wingspan 22.78 m (74 ft 10 in)
    • Heigh: 4.95 m (16 ft 3 in)
    • Wing area: 42.1 m² (544 ft²)
    • Airfoil: NACA 63 series (modified)
    • Empty weight: 16,900 lb (6,440 kg)
    • Max takeoff weight: 26,000 lb (10,387 kg)

    Performance

    • Maximum speed: 352 km/h (190 kn, 218 mph) (at 3,050 m (10,000 ft))
    • Cruise speed: 296 km/h (160 kn, 184 mph)
    • Stall speed: 136 km/h (73 kn, 85 mph) (flaps and landing gear down)
    • Range: 1,239 km (915 NM, 770 mi) (no reserves, passenger version, 1,966 kg payload)
    • Service ceiling: 3,500 m (11,500 ft)
    • Rate of climb: 60 m/s (2,100 ft/min)
    • Wing loading: 247 kg/m² (50.6 lb/ft²)


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 11:37pm
    CURTISS C-46 COMMANDO:
       _____________________   _________________   
       spec                         english
     
       empty weight                 29,300 pounds
       max loaded weight         50,000 pounds

       max speed at altitude     235 MPH / 205 KT
       service ceiling                 22,000 feet
       range                               1,800 MI / 1,565 NMI


    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 22 Mar 2009 at 1:25am
    DHC-2 Beaver
     
    Performance:
    Maximum Speed:
    135 mph
    217 km/h
    Cruising Speed:
    115 mph
    185 km/h
    Landing Speed:
    52 mph
    84 km/h
    Range:
    800 miles
    1288 km
    Max Climb:
    950 ft/min
    290 m/min
    Max Altitude:
    15,000 ft
    4,572 m
     


    Posted By: BradS
    Date Posted: 22 Mar 2009 at 2:31am
    Originally posted by Herege Herege wrote:

    Is not easy find all info that we need, like you point: 2), 4), and 5). But I think this can help many of us to setup some needed infor for our cargo aircrafts.

    Yep, I agree those are more difficult to locate, but is probably part of the documentation provided when the <FS9/FSX> aircraft is purchased.  I  had to google around a bit to find the info on the Twotter and the Pilatus PC-12; there was lots of info about them....just not what I was looking for.  AH needs those pieces of performance data to function accurately.  In some cases, it may provide default info but the accuracy needs to be verified.  In my case for the Twotter, it wasn't even close.


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    Posted By: TomA320
    Date Posted: 22 Mar 2009 at 10:28am
    Great new page!  It will help me a lot.


    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 23 Mar 2009 at 3:57am

    One of the most difficult stats to find published is fuel consumption.  If fuel capacity and range are published, you can approximate it from that, though there's no telling what criteria was used to establish the  published AC range.  It's usually done by testing with full tanks, but an empty aircraft, not exactly a good parallel for a cargo flight. Also, test pilots establish AC range by flying at the most economical power settings and altitudes which may not be how you operate your AC in AH.

    Finally, there are different variants of AC in the real world and in the sim and there are different versions of the same AC by different developers, which may very well behave differently.

    There is no better way to derive the fuel consumption of your AH aircraft than to fly it in the sim and measure it.

    Load the plane to MTOW with fuel and payload and fly it at a height, configuration and power setting that is typical of how YOU prefer to fly the airplane.

    Once level and stabilized in cruise, watch for the panel clock second hand to come to the top.  Open the Fuel & Payload menu and note the fuel quantity.  Return to the cockpit and continue.  Exactly 10 minutes later, open the F & P menu again and note the amount of fuel.  Subtract the two readings and multiply by six.  That's your fuel consumption per hour.

    Note that AH only uses the fuel consumption value you enter in Aircraft Details for a few things and if you're within 10% it will likely not cause any noticeable problems.  However, having an accurate value for fuel flow is very valuable for flight planning, particularly in determining if you'll need an enroute fuel stop for a certain job or for figuring out how much cargo you can carry after the fuel is loaded (or vice versa).

    John Allard



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    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 23 Mar 2009 at 6:11pm
    Aviation Traders Carvair
     
    Performance

    Maximum speed: 250 mph (400 km/h)

    Range: 2,300 miles (3,700 km)

    Service ceiling: 18,700 ft (5,700 m)

    Rate of climb: 650 ft/min (3.3 m/s)



    Posted By: Luftwulf
    Date Posted: 24 Mar 2009 at 8:09pm
    Here is a listing of G/A aircraft with range and fuel consumption listed in gal/hr.


    http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/aircraft/specifications.html - http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/aircraft/specifications.html


    Posted By: Hank
    Date Posted: 27 Mar 2009 at 9:56pm
    A more detailed info & specifications concerning all DHC aircraft !! Tongue

    http://www.xdh.ca/DHC_Aircraft/dhc_aircraft.html%20 - http://www.xdh.ca/DHC_Aircraft/dhc_aircraft.html



    Cheers


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    Posted By: TomA320
    Date Posted: 27 Mar 2009 at 10:24pm
    Any one have performance information for the Cessna Caravan?  I coulden't see it on this page.


    Posted By: Hank
    Date Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 11:23am
    Tom check here:
     
    http://www.aerotwin.com/caravan_specifications_and_dimensions.html - http://www.aerotwin.com/caravan_specifications_and_dimensions.html
     
     
    Cheers


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    Posted By: David
    Date Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 3:15pm

    Specifications (DC-3)
     
    Highly modified DC-3, a BT-67 powered by two Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6-65AR engines, now operated by the

    National Test Pilot School 
    Sun-n-Fun 2003, Lakeland, Florida, United StatesGeneral characteristics

    Crew: 2
    Capacity: 21-32 passengers
    Length: 64 ft 5 in (19.7 m)
    Wingspan: 95 ft 0 in (29.0 m)
    Height: 16 ft 11 in (5.16 m)
    Wing area: 987 ft² (91.7 m²)
    Empty weight: 18,300 lb (8,300 kg)
    Loaded weight: 25,200 lb (25,346 with deicing boots, 26,900 in some freight versions) (11,400 kg)
    Powerplant: 2× Wright R-1820 Cyclone 9 series (earliest aircraft) or Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp S1C3G in the C-47

    and later civilian aircraft, 1,100 or 1,200 hp (890 kW) max rating, depending upon engine and model (895 kW) each
    Propellers: 3-bladed Hamilton Standard 23E50 series hydraulically controlled constant speed, feathering


    Performance

    Maximum speed: 237 mph (206 knots, 381 km/h (=Never Exceed Speed (VNE), or Redline speed))
    Cruise speed: 150 mph (130 knots, 240 km/h)
    Range: 1,025 mi (890 nm, 1,650 km)
    Service ceiling: 24,000 ft (7,300 m)
    Rate of climb: 1,130 ft/min (5.73 m/s) initial
    Wing loading: 25.5 lb/ft² (125 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.0952 hp/lb (157 W/kg)

    Using John's formula, ie Fuel consumption over 10 minutes @10,000' x 10 = 70 Gals per Hr.(Approx!)
     
    VFE 97 Knots, as per placard speed in cockpit of sim DC3.
    VLE Unable to ascertain but would approximate VFE +10, since the gear is built like it means buisiness!!
    If it could survive WW2, Korea and the Berlin Air Lift ......................!!!

     



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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 3:22pm

    Quote Using John's formula, ie Fuel consumption over 10 minutes @10,000' x 10 = 70 Gals per Hr.(Approx!)

    It should be 10 minutes fuel burn X 6, not X 10. 

    John



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    Posted By: David
    Date Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 5:07pm
    Hi John here are the accurate figures;-
     
    DC3 in FSX;-
    Wind Calm
    @29.92
    Alt 10,000'
    2,500 RPM (both props)
    40" Manifold pressure
    22% Fuel mixture
    138 Knots IAS
    FUEL USED 22 Gallons  in 10 minutes so 22 x 6 = 132 Gallons per hour.
     
    Lovely aircraft!


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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 6:22pm
    David,
     
    That looks about right.  Good data.  By the way, however, wind speed has no effect on fuel per unit of time.  If you're looking at distance per unit of time it becomes very significant.
     
    John


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    Posted By: VH-MAL
    Date Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 10:02pm
    Originally posted by Hank Hank wrote:

    A more detailed info & specifications concerning all DHC aircraft !! Tongue

    http://www.xdh.ca/DHC_Aircraft/dhc_aircraft.html%20 - http://www.xdh.ca/DHC_Aircraft/dhc_aircraft.html



    Cheers
     
    Thanks Hank.
     
    As my early fleet will be based around DHC aircraft, this is a great link!
     
    Malcolm


    Posted By: papeg
    Date Posted: 29 Mar 2009 at 4:06am
    Boeing 247 - Great starter plane
     
    Cost new                1,256,000
    Lease Cost              157,000
    MTOW                     13650
    Empty Weight          8785
    Cargo Capacity        2878
    Cruise Speed           165
    Fuel Consumption    65
    Range                      750
    Vfe (Flaps)               160 (This plane has no flaps so I just set this to 160)
    Vle (Gears)              160


    Posted By: David
    Date Posted: 29 Mar 2009 at 5:09pm

    Cessna Caravan Cargomaster 

    Performance:-

    Cruise speed @10,000'  145 KIAS
    Fuel Consumption (Gal/Hr)  55.6

    This was gained by test flight, as suggested by John Allard.
    IE. Timed for 10 minutes, then multiply sum by 6 for PPH. at:-

    @10,000'
    146 KIAS
    1800 RPM (prop) (Adjusted down below red line)
    716 Turbine Temp
    7142 Ft/Lbs Torque. (Max throttle)
    (375 PPH displayed on guage in cockpit, which is nearly as per test consumption in GPH!)Range  862 NM (1596KM)
    VFE   125 KIAS ( As per maximum placard on ASI)
    VLE   Fixed gear.

    Additional specs:-

    Service ceiling.  22,800'
    Sea Level Rate of climb  925 FPM

    Max Weight  Take Off  8750 Lbs
                            Landing 8500 Lbs
    Fuel Capacity    336 Gallons 2249 Lbs.
     Useful Load with 170 KG pilot and pods filled to 1700 Lbs+ 2223 Lbs Fuel:-
    4093 LBS

    Wing Loading 31.3 Lbs/FT2
    Power Loading  13 Lbs/HP
    Engine PT6-114A
    675 SHP


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    Posted By: Hank
    Date Posted: 30 Mar 2009 at 2:35pm
    After surfing the net......all info about the DHC-4 Caribou (brochure) :

    http://www.dhc4and5.org/Caribou_Brochure.pdf - http://www.dhc4and5.org/Caribou_Brochure.pdf

    And on the main site of above all info (incl.manuals (!)) about both the  DHC-4 and DHC-5 !!

    http://www.dhc4and5.org/ - http://www.dhc4and5.org/

    Cheers Smile


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    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 30 Mar 2009 at 3:22pm
    Very useful Hank, I was a long time looking the official specs of caribou, and now it's here, great!Clap
     
    If you find more offical brochures, are more than welcome!


    Posted By: Paragon
    Date Posted: 04 Apr 2009 at 4:59pm
    Unless I overlooked it, any specs for the ATR 72 yet? I have not had any luck finding them on the net.

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    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 04 Apr 2009 at 5:36pm
    ATR 72-200F
     
    Max cruising speed (at 15,000ft): 526km/h (284kt)
    Economical cruising speed: 460km/h (248kt)
    Range with reserves at max optional weight 1195km (645nm)
    Service Ceiling: 25,000ft (7,620m)
    Normal Cruising Altitude: 14,000 - 18,000 feet (4,267 - 5,486m)
     
    Max Payload: 8,500kg (18,739lbs)
    Max takeoff: 22,000kg (48,502lbs)
    Max landing: 21,850kg (48,171lbs)
    Max ZFW: 20,000kg (48,502lbs)
     
    8,500kg (18,739lbs) payload comprising of nine compartments
     
    Wink


    Posted By: fritchka
    Date Posted: 04 Apr 2009 at 5:55pm
    Cessna P210 Centurion
     
    Production 1957 to 1985
    P210R - One 240kW (325hp) turbocharged and fuel injected TSIO-520-CE
    Normal cruise 150-170 kts
    Max speed 225kt at 20,000ft
    max cruising speed 213kt at 23,000ft
    Initial rate of climb 1150ft/min
    Service ceiling 25,000ft
    Range with reserves and optional fuel 1190nm
    Empty wt 2470lb
    MTOW 4100lb
    Estimated Cargo 1160 lb
    Estimated fuel consumption 20gal/hr


    Posted By: Paragon
    Date Posted: 04 Apr 2009 at 8:47pm
    Thanks Herege 

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    Posted By: JD-LincsUK
    Date Posted: 06 Apr 2009 at 7:31pm
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    Posted By: Paragon
    Date Posted: 06 Apr 2009 at 11:13pm
    Thanks JD for this wealth of information and your work into gather it all. Much appreciated!

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    Posted By: TiggerToo
    Date Posted: 11 Apr 2009 at 6:57pm
    For the Citation Mustang:

    AH will do the rest but Range is 1,150nm : Fule burn is 89USG p/h

    also, it's a really fun little plane!! ;o)


    Posted By: GTOMW
    Date Posted: 14 Apr 2009 at 10:36pm
    Has anyone tried to import the FSD Porter PC6? For some reason it only has a cargo capacity of 27.1001 lbs???


    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 14 Apr 2009 at 10:51pm

    Copy the Weigth and Balance section and the Fuel section of the aircraft.cfg file into this thread, please.

    John


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    Posted By: hobofat
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 2:44am
    Just to be aware, the MAAM-SIM DC-3 comes in at about 92-116 gallons/hr rather than the 216 JD lists as default.  This is much more consistent with real world numbers than the default, so if you're a serious DAK driver, you might consider purchasing their DC-3!

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    Posted By: JD-LincsUK
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 9:28am
    Most, if not all, of the default aircraft seem to be rather thirstier than their real-world counterparts.

    I forgot to mention that the fuel burn figures were calculated immediately the aircraft was settled into the cruise, rather than an average over the entire range - so they were quite heavy.

    In this way, the fuel burn figures should always be considered a maximum, and therefore safe to use for calculations - rather a smidgen too much in the tank than trying to glide a loaded 747...! Wink

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    Posted By: Killieboy64
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 10:19am
    Can anyone help sort out the Wilco Airbus A400M? AH reads the cargo capacity as minus 44541lbs! Here are the weight & balance and the fuel sections of the cfg
     

    [weight_and_balance]

    max_gross_weight = 264550

    empty_weight = 154321

    reference_datum_position = 0, 0, 0

    empty_weight_CG_position = -2, 0, 0

    empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 3400000

    empty_weight_roll_MOI = 3300000

    empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 3800000

    empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0

    CG_forward_limit = 0.000

    CG_aft_limit = 1.000

     

    max_number_of_stations=50

    station_load.0=6804, 0.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000, Payload

    Payload_type=1

    Payload_Vehicles=1

    [fuel]

    //Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

    fuel_type = 2

    number_of_tank_selectors = 1

    electric_pump = 0

    Center1 = -1.0, 0.0, 0.00, 7700, 3

    LeftMain = -1.0, -10.00, 0.00, 7700, 3

    RightMain = -1.0, 10.00, 0.00, 7700, 3

    Thanks in advance if you're able to assist.
     
    (Also, if anyone has worked out the fuel burn already?)
     
    Derek


    Posted By: Killieboy64
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 10:23am
    Hang on I've just spotted it has a load manager. I'll try loading it via this and then re-importing it.


    Posted By: Killieboy64
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 11:50am
    Nah, that didn't work.Cry  I've just worked out the fuel burn from a test run though: 1800 Gal/hr ( full load at 30000ft 315kts). So over to you guys again.
     
    Cheers
     
    Derek


    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 2:56pm

    Quote I forgot to mention that the fuel burn figures were calculated immediately the aircraft was settled into the cruise, rather than an average over the entire range - so they were quite heavy.

    The engines burn what they burn at a given air density and power setting.  The engines are unaffected by whether the AC is light or heavy.  If the measure is fuel consumed per unit of time (as opposed to fuel consumed per unit of distance) it's not going to vary as you burn off fuel.

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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 3:08pm
    I agree with the AH figures...
     
    Cargo Cap'y = MTOW - Empty Weight - Full Fuel Weight
     
    Cargo Cap'y = 264,550 - 154,321 - (7700 X 3 X 6.7)
     
    Cargo Cap'y = 264,550 - 154,321 - 154,770
     
    Cargo Cap'y = - 44541
     
    Your beef is with the developer of the AC.  According to his figures, it's 22 tons overweight with full fuel tanks and no cargo.
     
    John
     
    EDIT:  According to Wiki
     
    MTOW = 310,852 lb
     
    Total Internal Fuel = 103,000 lb
     
    Applying those will make quite a difference.  Since the real AC  hasn't flown yet the publicized figures are probably a bit fuzzy and may be changing as the design is tweaked by Airbus.
     
    JDA


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    Posted By: Killieboy64
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 5:41pm
    Many thanks for your swift reply, that has worked a treat.
     
    PS. I didn't really have a beef with anyone.


    Posted By: hobofat
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 11:16pm
    Originally posted by allardjd allardjd wrote:

    Quote I forgot to mention that the fuel burn figures were calculated immediately the aircraft was settled into the cruise, rather than an average over the entire range - so they were quite heavy.

    The engines burn what they burn at a given air density and power setting.  The engines are unaffected by whether the AC is light or heavy.  If the measure is fuel consumed per unit of time (as opposed to fuel consumed per unit of distance) it's not going to vary as you burn off fuel.

    John



    This is very true, and especially important with regards to piston powered aircraft.  Power management is key, and the numbers fluctuate depending on power settings, altitude, temperature etc.

    I did not mean my post to denigrate in any way the hard work you put in compiling those numbers JD!  Your performance table is brilliant.  I Just wanted to highlight the difference for users of the MAAM-SIM DC-3.


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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 11:41pm

    hobofat,

    You're quite right - JD did us all a great favor by deriving and publicizing those stats.  It represents a lot of work and we should all be appreciative of it.  He was being too hard on himself when he suggested his data might be imprecise because of the AC being heavily loaded - that will not affect fuel consumption per unit of time.

    As you noted, and as other users should be aware, results are always subject to different variables and parameters.

    The same AC by a different developer may very well behave differently.  A different model of the same aircraft may have different performance characteristics.  Altitude, temperature, and power settings will all have an effect on fuel burn per hour.  JD's numbers are a good starting point and will get us in the ball park, but prudent operators will carry a fuel reserve (if for no other reason than fickle winds aloft) and refine the planning numbers they use over time as they become more familiar with how their particular AC performs when operated according to their own habits and preferences.

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    Posted By: JD-LincsUK
    Date Posted: 16 Apr 2009 at 9:00am
    Firstly, to hobofat - don't worry, as I didn't take your comments as criticism at all - I read exactly as you meant it Wink

    Models of the same aircraft but from different developers always seem to differ in performance stats and therefore your info is very useful to anyone who has the MAAM-SIM DC-3.

    Secondly a general point to anyone who uses those stats I've posted, as John says, these figures are merely something that you can enter into the relevant boxes and use for rough guidance whilst importing aircraft into AH, just to get you started.

    You will be able to see how the aircraft performs as you use it within AH, not least by using the fuel burn and similar stats in the inbuilt flight reports. You can then adjust the figures yourself in the aircraft management pages if you find that you are using less fuel (which is always likely to be the case, rather than more fuel).

    I did this list because I found myself stuck when I wanted to import some aircraft and had no idea what to put into the fuel burn and range boxes. I also did some default aircraft as I found the quoted figures sometimes a bit wide of the mark. The weights are quoted for comparison purposes. The other info is just for.... erm... info! Big%20smile

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    Posted By: JD-LincsUK
    Date Posted: 16 Apr 2009 at 9:09am
    Originally posted by allardjd allardjd wrote:

    Quote I forgot to mention that the fuel burn figures were calculated immediately the aircraft was settled into the cruise, rather than an average over the entire range - so they were quite heavy.

    The engines burn what they burn at a given air density and power setting.  The engines are unaffected by whether the AC is light or heavy.  If the measure is fuel consumed per unit of time (as opposed to fuel consumed per unit of distance) it's not going to vary as you burn off fuel.

    John



    Forgot about this one - surely the aircraft will require more power to keep at the same speed and altitude if it is heavier, though?

    JD


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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 16 Apr 2009 at 2:42pm

    Quote Forgot about this one - surely the aircraft will require more power to keep at the same speed and altitude if it is heavier, though?

    JD,

    That's exactly right - same speed.  If that's part of the criteria, it changes everything we said above.  

    For a given air density and power setting, however, the fuel burn will be constant.  As the AC burns off fuel and becomes lighter, the angle of attack (and induced drag) will lessen slightly and speed will increase, everything else remaining constant.  Fuel burn will not change with weight if air density and power setting don't change, but airspeed will.

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    Posted By: Herege
    Date Posted: 18 Apr 2009 at 12:13am

     Airbus A300-600F Dedicated freighter model

    EOW 90 100 kg (198 600 lb)

    MZF 130 000 kg (286 600 lb)

    MTOW 168 000 kg (370 400 lb)

    MLW 140 000 kg (308 600 lb)

    Max cruise speed 480 kts (553 mph) 890 kph @ 7 620 m (25 000’)

    Fuel capacity 68 150 litres (14 990 gal) 18 000 US gal

    Runway required T/O 2 290 m (7 515’)

    Runway required Ldg 1 555 m (5 100’)

    Payload Maximum: 55 017 kg (121 290 lb)



    Posted By: spidierox
    Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 10:30am

    Quote Forgot about this one - surely the aircraft will require more power to keep at the same speed and altitude if it is heavier, though?

    JD,

    Look at the engine as a power source - forget about speed a moment

    Engine performance - the power output is affected by altitude, temperature and humidity.
    Whenever one of these changes you effect the performance of the engine.
    I use this little mind trick : engine performance is affected by the 3 H's:
    - Height
    - HOT
    - Humidity
     
    Dieter
     

     


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    Posted By: hobofat
    Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 1:14am
    A good resource that helped me understand all the above issues was the Propliner Tutorial written by FSAviator, obtainable at http://www.calclassic.com/tutorials.htm.  I will go ahead and say that I find FSAviator to be quite dramatic in his writing style, and very one-dimensional, but there is a wealth of information and a good starting point, though it's directed towards piston-engined propliners, it does try to differentiate the difference between that and other types of engines.

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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 2:31am

    With any engine type, at a given power setting and air density, fuel burn will be a constant.  AC weight does not affect it.  Speed will vary with AC weight but fuel burn will not vary unless the power setting and/or air density change.

    As noted above, temperature, altitude, humidity affect density.
     
    John
     
     


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    Posted By: mickforce
    Date Posted: 06 May 2009 at 7:42pm

    Boing 767-300

    460 kts
    1844 gal/hr
    5990 NM
    250 KT Vfe
    270 KT Vle
     
    I love my LevelD!


    Posted By: Freight Dawg
    Date Posted: 07 May 2009 at 2:14pm
    Someone needs to do a 767-300ER model using the new winglets.  I've only flown them at light weights and we were seeing 5,700 to 5,500 PPH per side at FL390 for roughly 1,672 Gal/Hr.  The airplane flies a degree or two more nose down, it definitely has more lift out there. 

    That's 9% lower than the Level D numbers, but we have no idea what assumptions are built into that fuel burn.

    While JD Lincs is correct on his fuel burn discussion, the FMC provides VNAV cruise speeds based on winds aloft (faster into a headwind, slower to take advantage of tail winds), weight, temperature, and cost index.  Your fuel burn relates to how fast you are pushing the airplane.  At hevier weights the wind requires more airflow to maintain the same angle of attack... so heavier you definately burn more fuel.

    Look for charts that show the numbers graphically, or build a model based on 1st hour, second hour, third hour, etc...


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    Posted By: Freight Dawg
    Date Posted: 07 May 2009 at 2:25pm
    Originally posted by BradS BradS wrote:

    The specific performance information that is needed is:
    PDMG MD11 Cargo - PDMG
    1. Cruise Speed (knots) = 482
    2. Fuel Consumption (Gallons/hour) = 2,686
    3. Range (nautical miles) = 8,225*
    4. Vfe - maximum speed flaps extension = 280
    5. Vle - maximum speed landing gear = 260
    6. Cargo Capacity = 126,202.2
    7. Cost = $134,818,200.00
    Leonardo MD82/83/88  "Mad Dog"

    1. Cruise Speed (knots) = 467
    2. Fuel Consumption (Gallons/hour) = 895
    3. Range (nautical miles) = 2,100*
    4. Vfe - maximum speed flaps extension = 280
    5. Vle - maximum speed landing gear = 300
    6. Cargo Capacity = 31,014
    7. Cost = $ 33,565,040.00




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    Posted By: Hendrix
    Date Posted: 14 May 2009 at 11:01am
    Found a very good site to lift info from:

    http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/ - http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/

    On the top left on the menu there is a button for english, for those who dont speak german :)

    //Hendrix


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    Posted By: charlie
    Date Posted: 22 May 2009 at 7:31pm
    Pilatus Porter  (PC6)

    Range without external tanks:   500nm
    Range with external tanks:    860nm

    MTOW:    6173

    Fuel burn:   39Gals/hr


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    Posted By: shaundale
    Date Posted: 26 May 2009 at 10:53pm
    Another Link to a site that shows Everything you need, Currently on Airbus Fleet BUT does have a search so could find other Planes. Don't have time to look, pay as go intnet, sorry.
     
    http://www.aircharter-international.com/passenger_aircraft/passenger_aircraft_types_airbus.asp - http://www.aircharter-international.com/passenger_aircraft/passenger_aircraft_types_airbus.asp
     
    Regards,
    Shaun.


    Posted By: Mickel
    Date Posted: 02 Jun 2009 at 1:12pm
    For fixed gear, should Vle be set to Vne?  (Vne = don't go faster than this... ever)


    Posted By: tomkrist
    Date Posted: 22 Jun 2009 at 8:08pm
    I need range (nm) and fuel/hour burn(usg) for this planes/addons if any have:P

    Airbus Wilco Collection(1,2+a380)
    A319
    A320
    A321(not sure if default is correct?)
    A330
    A340
    A380

    wilco pic 737-300
    wilco pic 737-400
    wilco pic 737-500

    Pmdg Md11
    pmdg 747

    Also for the wilco Legacy and boing 777

    and the aerosoft piper cheyenne + catalina x planes.

    If any can help i would be very happy.


    Posted By: SirDixie
    Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 11:09pm
    These figures are worked out from some RAF numbers, the figures are based on their tanker aircraft so might be slightly different to civilian versions.  However, seeing as the tankers are mostly stripped out inside they would probably make a decent approximation to cargo versions of the types. Smile

    Lockheed L1011-500 Tristar

    470 kts
    2600 gal/hr
    5509NM


    Vickers VC-10
    502 kts
    2311 gal/hr
    5000 NM

    Vickers Super VC-10
    505 kts
    2311 gal/hr
    5200 NM



    Posted By: Mickel
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2009 at 5:52am
    C-152:
    95kts
    6.6Gal/hr
    380NM
    Roughly real world figures


    Posted By: ATL98A
    Date Posted: 11 Jul 2009 at 4:32am
    With the ATL98A you may wish to consider that the standard fuel load used to max out at 2400 USG. This was governed by the oil quantity.................if you had long range oil tanks fitted you could load, if i remember correctly, 2868 USG. Fuel burn depended to a great extent on MP and prop rpm..............no standard burn. I will try and rummage for my old notes for more info..........if it is wanted. 250 mph at 10,000 ft is generous. Glad to see the old girl warrants an honourable mention in the awesome AH programme.


    Posted By: mugc
    Date Posted: 16 Jul 2009 at 7:03pm
    A bit of a dated query on the Caribou (DHC-4) post - but does anyone have the AH specs on the type - specifically the Alphasim model (Purchase Cost/Lease Dep/Lease Pay/MTOW/Cargo Capacity/etc)?  Still looking for a good medium size STOL for FSX SP2. If anyone has the alphasim product - do they know if it suffers from the autogen issue that some FS9 to FSX model ports have (clouds/trees display over the prop)?
     
    Regards


    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 6:38pm

    Does anyone have RW or FS data for the Quest Kodiak?  I'm particularly interested in cruise speed, service ceiling, fuel burn, range.  The specs I do have make it look pretty similar to the Caravan or PC-12, but possibly with better short-field capability and a better cockpit.  Is that correct? 



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    Posted By: concorde380
    Date Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 6:47pm
    Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quest_Aircraft

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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 7:14pm
    Thanks, Pedro.  I missed that one.  I may just have to pick one of these up.
     


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    Posted By: Greg B
    Date Posted: 25 Jul 2009 at 4:15pm
    Here goes for the first post on here!  I found this PDF with a bit of detail on GPH consumption for most of the more common aircraft whilst I was looking up performance data.  It may not conform exactly to the actual FSX/FS9 aircraft, but it should get you in the right ballpark:
    http://www.icao.int/icao/en/ro/allpirg/allpirg4/wp28app.pdf - http://www.icao.int/icao/en/ro/allpirg/allpirg4/wp28app.pdf
     
    Hope that helps! 
     
    As a question from me, has anyone else tried to put import the Wilco A330-200?  I keep on getting a minus cargo capacity figure of -4100 odd.
     
    Thanks
     
    Greg
     


    Posted By: Thunder175
    Date Posted: 25 Jul 2009 at 5:31pm
    What an excellent find Greg! A little outdated (looks like mostly from 2000) but great info nonetheless!


    Posted By: kymsheba
    Date Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 1:42am
    Originally posted by Greg B Greg B wrote:

    Here goes for the first post on here!  I found this PDF with a bit of detail on GPH consumption for most of the more common aircraft whilst I was looking up performance data.  It may not conform exactly to the actual FSX/FS9 aircraft, but it should get you in the right ballpark:
    http://www.icao.int/icao/en/ro/allpirg/allpirg4/wp28app.pdf - http://www.icao.int/icao/en/ro/allpirg/allpirg4/wp28app.pdf
     
    Hope that helps! 
     
    As a question from me, has anyone else tried to put import the Wilco A330-200?  I keep on getting a minus cargo capacity figure of -4100 odd.
     
    Thanks
     
    Greg
     
    Hi Greg,

    The reason you will be getting a negative value is because the Maximum and minium weight of the aircraft maybe back to front ie: Maximum may have the minimum value and minimum may have the maximum value this happened to me with one of my aircraft.

    you will find the values in the "aircraft.cfg" in the aircraft folder in your case the Wilco A330-200 folder inside airplanes folder.

    the section is the "WEIGHT and BALANCE" section.

    Check those values and if the minimum is higher than then the maximum just switch the values around.

    step 2: once you have done that in AIR HAULER you need to remove all the Wilco A330-200 planes and reenter them again for the correct values to appear in air hauler.

    Step 3: unfortunately if you own any of these aircrafts you need to sell them and rebuy the airplane with the new values. The program won't change the values which is why you need to remove and reenter the airplanes into air hauler.

    Hope this helps as that is what happened to me with one of my planes the "UIVER DC-2"

    Cheers,
    Mike


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    Posted By: Greg B
    Date Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 8:02am
    Thanks for the tips Mike, unfortunately that doesnt work either as the numbers are correct, I've tried swapping them around and that gives a greater minus value! Confused


    Posted By: Mower
    Date Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 9:38pm
    Thanx for the info but is the specific fuel consumption in galloons per hour for the LDS 767 300 ER?
     
    Thanx!


    Posted By: kymsheba
    Date Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 11:11pm
    Originally posted by Greg B Greg B wrote:

    Thanks for the tips Mike, unfortunately that doesnt work either as the numbers are correct, I've tried swapping them around and that gives a greater minus value! Confused
    Hi Greg,

    Sorry it didn't work mate, but i have another idea that may be the problem.

    Are the values showing the correct numbers i suggest goto a site with the info of the real plane and see if the figures match up with the WEIGHT & BALANCE figures.

    Also check the fuel amount and make sure it is correct i know that some developers fudge the numbers a bit to make the plane more flyable in FS9 or FSX.

    If the fuel amount is more than real life and you have maximum fuel loaded this maybe why you might be getting negative numbers again.

    Just worth checking as this is all i can think of that may be causing the wrong values.

    Hope these suggestions work mate.

    The last thing you could try is to uninstall AIR HAULER completely and then reinstall and reenter the aircraft again and hope that fixes the problem but you most likely have already tried this.

    I will keep searching through and see if i can find a solution for you mate when time permits if you like.

    Cheers,
    Mike


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    Posted By: mugc
    Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 9:53pm

    New Regional Prop......

    PMDG now has their new Jetstream 41 announced on their website – not available yet – but getting close. There are a few folks in the customer forum asking about a freighter model, and one person noted this link which announced a JS 41 Freighter conversion….

    http://www.regional-services.com/pdf/ur_news_news_Lett_frei_news_09.pdf - http://www.regional-services.com/pdf/ur_news_news_Lett_frei_news_09.pdf

    According to http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/jetstream41/specs.html

    Performance:

     

    Cruise speed 540 km/hour

    Economical cruise speed 482 km/hour

    Maximum altitude7,925 m

    Maximum rate of climb670 m/min

    Typical range with full passenger load 800 nm

    Range with 80 per cent load1,490 nm

    Typical fuel burn 420 kg/hr

    Runway take-off 1,523 m

    Runway landing1,280 m

     

    Weights:

    Empty weight 6,473 kg

    Maximum take-off weight 10,886 kg

    Maximum landing weight 10,569 kg

    Maximum fuel 2,703 kg

     

    That would put the max cargo for AI in at 1710 kg (please correct me if I am wrong with that), or 3770 lbs… Not a heavy lifter by any means – the Catalina has double the cargo capacity for AI – but it’s a very slow trip in the old bird!

     

    Looks like an interesting addition to the fleet for a regional though – as with most things in AH – might not be the smartest business move – but if it’s fun and interesting to fly – my companies for it!

     

    Price is at $44.95 and they claim that features are very configurable to accommodate a wide range of systems while maintaining decent frame rates….



    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 10:06pm
    Someone's flying a Jetstream 41 (Beta) in AH as we speak.  I can see one on the radar.  Pilot name is "Keebler Corp."
     


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    Posted By: mugc
    Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 11:10pm

    Ahh – could be a strong indication of the growing popularity of AH when you see new aircraft getting beta tested within AH prior to release!!! 

     
    Noticed that the AH landing categories were used  as a metrics in the Avsim review of the Ariane 737… maybe they will become standard benchmarks...

     

    “Just to prove how easy it was to land manually, I stuck it into Air Hauler so it would monitor a manual approach and touchdown. This was at Almeria’s runway 26 in southern Spain. As you can see from the caption, it is easy to pull off a greaser in the 900ER, despite that big tail overhang.”

     

    Source:  http://www.avsim.com/pages/0709/Ariane/737.htm



    Posted By: Turbineflyer
    Date Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 2:24pm
    Originally posted by allardjd allardjd wrote:

    Does anyone have RW or FS data for the Quest Kodiak?  I'm particularly interested in cruise speed, service ceiling, fuel burn, range.  The specs I do have make it look pretty similar to the Caravan or PC-12, but possibly with better short-field capability and a better cockpit.  Is that correct? 

    At 179 ktas, at 12,000 ft, fuel consumption is 47 gph yielding 1,032 nm over 5.9 hr
     
    http://www.questaircraft.com/index.php?filename=specs.php&section=38 - http://www.questaircraft.com/index.php?filename=specs.php&section=38
     
    Been flying this baby since FS9 intro. Get one.
     


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    Posted By: Slopey
    Date Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 2:39pm
    Originally posted by mugc mugc wrote:

    Ahh – could be a strong indication of the growing popularity of AH when you see new aircraft getting beta tested within AH prior to release!!!

    Noticed that the AH landing categories were used as a metrics in the Avsim review of the Ariane 737… maybe they will become standard benchmarks...

    “Just to prove how easy it was to land manually, I stuck it into Air Hauler so it would monitor a manual approach and touchdown. This was at Almeria’s runway 26 in southern Spain. As you can see from the caption, it is easy to pull off a greaser in the 900ER, despite that big tail overhang.”

    Source: http://www.avsim.com/pages/0709/Ariane/737.htm


    That's so cool!


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    Posted By: allardjd
    Date Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 3:09pm

    Quote Been flying this baby since FS9 intro. Get one.

    I picked up one (FS9) on sale the other day for $14.95.



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    Posted By: Skipper
    Date Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 6:08pm
    I purchased the Quest Kodiak a few days ago in version 2.4b. I am not really happy with the performance. Speed and cargo capacity are a bit off I think.
    The empty weigt is only 3350 (reality 3700), the speed at 12.000 at max power is already 231 Knots (reality 185 Knots maximum cruise speed.) You reach this 185 Knots with under 65% throttle...that does not "feel right".

    This feels like cheating. Big%20smile

    I changed the powerscalar from the turbine engine from 1.5 to 1.3 and the fuelscalar from
    1.0 to 0.94 and empty weight to 3700. I tried to match exactly the fuel consumption from
    the webside: 12.000 feet 179 Knots 47 gallons.

    The plane is still way to fast (221 Knots at 12.000 feet)  but with this downgrades it is loosing his stol abilities. It needs a lot more runway with this configuration. With powerscalar 1.0 top speed goes down to 198 Knots at 12 k feet but it is absolutely underperforming on takeoff and climbrate then...

    With a max cruise speed of 185 Knots. What should be a realistic top speed...200? 

    Does anyone know enough about the .config and .air to match the data off the real-world Kodiak... downgrade top speed but keep stol and climb abilities?

    I really like the idea of the Kodiak. Strong rough plane. Exactly the right plane to haul in the wilderness of Alaska and Canada. And for that I would like it to be as realistic as possible...Smile.

    Any ideas?


    Skip












    Posted By: sputnik421
    Date Posted: 23 Aug 2009 at 1:30am

    Cessna 425 / 441


    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=156 - http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=156 Quote"
    Performance  
    425 - Max cruising speed 490km/h (264kt) at 17,700ft. Initial rate of climb 2027ft/min. Service ceiling 34,700ft. Range with max payload 1252km (676nm), max range 3050km (1647nm).

    441 - Max speed 547km/h (295kt), max cruising speed 543km/h (293kt). Initial rate of climb 2435ft/min. Service ceiling 37,000ft. Max range with reserves at long range cruising speed 3048km (1646nm), range with max payload and reserves 2724km (1471nm).
    "

    I don't see the flap damage speeds there though. Do we put the light /calculate 50-70% /  heavy load Range in?

    I'm trying for the Titan v2 1200nm. So 1200range / 264Kts = 4.55Gph?

    http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/ -


    Posted By: mhlarsen
    Date Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 1:23pm
    Originally posted by mugc mugc wrote:

    New Regional Prop......

    PMDG now has their new Jetstream 41 announced on their website – not available yet – but getting close. There are a few folks in the customer forum asking about a freighter model, and one person noted this link which announced a JS 41 Freighter conversion….

    http://www.regional-services.com/pdf/ur_news_news_Lett_frei_news_09.pdf - http://www.regional-services.com/pdf/ur_news_news_Lett_frei_news_09.pdf

    According to http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/jetstream41/specs.html

    Performance:

     

    Cruise speed 540 km/hour

    Economical cruise speed 482 km/hour

    Maximum altitude7,925 m

    Maximum rate of climb670 m/min

    Typical range with full passenger load 800 nm

    Range with 80 per cent load1,490 nm

    Typical fuel burn 420 kg/hr

    Runway take-off 1,523 m

    Runway landing1,280 m

     

    Weights:

    Empty weight 6,473 kg

    Maximum take-off weight 10,886 kg

    Maximum landing weight 10,569 kg

    Maximum fuel 2,703 kg

     

    That would put the max cargo for AI in at 1710 kg (please correct me if I am wrong with that), or 3770 lbs… Not a heavy lifter by any means – the Catalina has double the cargo capacity for AI – but it’s a very slow trip in the old bird!

     

    Looks like an interesting addition to the fleet for a regional though – as with most things in AH – might not be the smartest business move – but if it’s fun and interesting to fly – my companies for it!

     

    Price is at $44.95 and they claim that features are very configurable to accommodate a wide range of systems while maintaining decent frame rates….

     
    Here is a link to some more detailed info about the Jetstream 41 Freighter, or J41E as it is called:
     
    http://www.regional-services.com/pdf/Jetstream_41_General_data_brochure.pdf - http://www.regional-services.com/pdf/Jetstream_41_General_data_brochure.pdf
     
     


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    Posted By: sputnik421
    Date Posted: 29 Aug 2009 at 5:52am
    Has any one else tried to inport the beach jet 400a it's cargo capacity in AH is -3.199707

    [General]
    performance=400A - Max Speed: 468kt\Typical cruising speed: 450kt\Long range cruising speed: 392kt\Initial climb rate: 3770 ft/min\Service Ceiling: 43,400 ft\Range with Max fuel cruising at 430kt: 1574nm at 418kt: 1693nm\Powerplants: Two 2965lb takeoff rated Pratt & Whitney Canada JT15D5 turbofans
    atc_type=Beechjet
    Category=airplane

    [WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
    reference_datum_position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
    empty_weight_CG_position=0.500000,0.000000,0.000000
    max_number_of_stations=50
    station_load.0=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
    empty_weight=12000.000000
    empty_weight_roll_MOI=45000.000000
    empty_weight_pitch_MOI=50000.000000
    empty_weight_yaw_MOI=70000.000000
    empty_weight_coupled_MOI=3300.000000
    max_gross_weight=18000.000000

    [fuel]
    Center1=-6.860000,0.000000,-1.500000,359.000000,0.000000
    LeftMain=-1.800000,-10.000000,-1.500000,268.500000,0.000000
    RightMain=-1.800000,10.000000,-1.500000,268.500000,0.000000
    fuel_type=2.000000
    number_of_tank_selectors=1
    electric_pump=0


    I hope those are the reverent bits of the aircraft.cfg I hope somone can help. Thanks in advance


    Posted By: pfevrier
    Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 6:47pm
    Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone had info needed on Lockheed Constellation. Just picked it up today from Just Flight, and wanted to see it in AH.
    Any numbers are appreciated, thanks.



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