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Throttle control

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Category: Just Flight Products
Forum Name: Hawk T1/A Advanced Trainer
Forum Description: Discussion of our Hawk T1/A
URL: http://forum.justflight.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=31449
Printed Date: 18 Jul 2018 at 8:12pm


Topic: Throttle control
Posted By: awinwey
Subject: Throttle control
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 11:30am
Hi JF,

Before I raise a ticket, got an old problem again where the model no longer supports the twin throttles of my X-55. Had this before with the original release but it was sorted I believe. For a quick fix I can remap but this is not ideal.

Other than that; awesome!Big smile

Another unrelated issue you may not be aware of: If I run TacPack, FSUIPC and FTX England I get a CTD at completion of loading scenario. Works OK with either FSUIPC or TacPack but not with both. In each case it is kernelbase.dll that causes the error. Away from the UK it works fine so am assuming it is some interaction issue between the three packages. Strangely only happened after I installed the Hawk and it may be completely unrelated. Thought it might be useful info, not blaming you guys!



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Posted By: mlb406
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 5:12pm
Hi Awinwey,

I too found this issue, I believe it occurs when the throttle axis on your joystick is bound to the number 1 throttle axis in FSX/P3D. As a workaround I found that binding your throttle on your joystick to the generic throttle axis in FSX/P3D should fix this.

Max


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Posted By: WMMangus
Date Posted: 01 May 2017 at 8:18pm
I have the same problem with my Saitek X-56 Rhino. Stick and rudder pedals work fine. Throttle works in all other aircraft.

I do have the twin throttles mapped to throttle axes 1 and 2. Other single engine a/c work fine with this mapping. It's a pain to have to re-map the throttle just to fly one aircraft.

Please try and make a correction.


Posted By: robwin
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 7:03pm
I have the same problem. I have a saitek cessna control yoke plus a saitek throttle quadrant that are combined and configured for twin engine aircraft. The throttle does not work at all on the hawk. I use spad next for all my aircraft and the hawk is the only one with throttle issues.can someone please point me in the right direction..Thanks.


Posted By: robwin
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 8:23pm
Update to the above. Managed to make a temporary fix creating an aircraft specific profile with fsuipc.Smile


Posted By: robwin
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 6:54pm
Further  to my last. The fsuipc fix is not working well. No matter how I calibrate the throttle it starts with half power selected and the throttle has a huge lag. Can someone let me know what the original remedy was please. 

Thanks in anticipation.



Posted By: WMMangus
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 8:27pm
I had a several PM session with one of the staff back in the spring. I no longer have the emails but the upshot was JF contacted the developer and found out he/they have no idea what they did to fix this issue back when the Hawk was first introduced. As of that email, the developer has no plans to do any further work on this issue. I'll see if I can find that traffic and post it here.


Posted By: Rich
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2017 at 8:59pm
Hi Chaps,
I'm the developer of the Hawk and the throttle issue is still on my radar. Weirdly, I just send an email off this evening about it. I've recently got hold of one of the joysticks that has this problem so I can start getting to the root of the problem soon. 
Work on the Hawk is far from dead yet. I've got another service pack planned for it that will include some upgrades and enhancements, as well as bug fixes for anything reported so far. After that there is the possibility of it popping up in some other sims as well, so there is more to come. 


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Posted By: robwin
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2017 at 1:01pm
Thanks both for your feed back.

  As I mentioned earlier, my problem is with my Saitek Cessna pro flight controllers. In fact I have all the Saitek boxes plus the trim wheel rudder pedals etc, and I use a triple widescreen setup with Nvdea surround. I have windows 10 anniversary edition 1703 and P3dV4.1 

I use SpadNext for my saitek drivers which work perfectly will all my aircraft except the Hawk. I have tried calibrating my devices through P3D and SpadNext and of course FSUIPC  and it is only the latter which gets any response out of the Hawk Throttle. This is so bad it makes the aircraft unusable. All my other devices work fine.

I have a P3D 3.4 installed on a gaming laptop with a thrust master controller and the Hawk works perfectly on that so it is obvious the issue is with my Saitek Cessna proflight yoke with its throttle quadrant and additional throttle quadrant. I hope this info helps you Rich with your fix.

Thanks again

Rob


Posted By: robwin
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 6:33pm
Hello guys .. Is there any news on the service pack that fixes the Hawk throttle problem with saitek controllers ? I have not been able to use it .

Thanks ..Rob


Posted By: Ivor
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 5:52pm
Hi so glad these posts are here thought I had a down load issue, look forward to an update to enable proper flight with throttle, otherwise an excellent model.
Ivor


Posted By: Ivor
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 6:51pm
Hi so glad these posts are here thought I had a down load issue, look forward to an update to enable proper flight with throttle, otherwise an excellent model.
Ivor


Posted By: vvince
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 9:28am
Hello,
I just wanted to report that the throttle issue is not only with Saitek controller : I have the problem with my Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog.
Cheers
Vvince


Posted By: WMMangus
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2018 at 2:31pm
Posting once again to inquire if any progress has been made or is planned to fix this issue. No updates to Hawk recently I've found. Saitek X-56 with throttles mapped to throttle 1 and 2 still does not work for Hawk single throttle.

Please advise.

WMM


Posted By: WMMangus
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by Rich Rich wrote:

Hi Chaps,
I'm the developer of the Hawk and the throttle issue is still on my radar. Weirdly, I just send an email off this evening about it. I've recently got hold of one of the joysticks that has this problem so I can start getting to the root of the problem soon. 
Work on the Hawk is far from dead yet. I've got another service pack planned for it that will include some upgrades and enhancements, as well as bug fixes for anything reported so far. After that there is the possibility of it popping up in some other sims as well, so there is more to come. 


Any progress on this issue. Still exists for me.



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