Dove FDE selector
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Printed Date: 24 Apr 2024 at 6:36am
Topic: Dove FDE selector
Posted By: MadRobbie1
Subject: Dove FDE selector
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 6:43pm
Nice to see a service pack for the Devon/Dove released  - but why the 3 different FDE's?Why can't it just have one FDE - i.e. one that matches the aircrafts performance in real life? The product page says "Finely tuned flight dynamics" so it's not really claiming to be a model that's on the numbers/to be flown by the book like some developers promote, but can anyone provide some background info as to why you've had to go down this route? The curious side of me is thinking that shouldn't it be a case of it's either correct or it's not?  Cheers! Rob |
"An FDE switcher tool is provided in this update. The tool allows you to select between three different FDE options:Replies:
Posted By: TimSim
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 7:16pm
| I assume they kept the original air file option as not everyone had reported problems with the handling. Not quite sure what option 2 means though... |
Posted By: Svengali
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 3:34am
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Excellent! Thank you JF, the Dove is now a pleasure to fly with this update. Delighted that you responded so quickly to address the problems some of us were having with the flight dynamics. Mike |
Posted By: TimSim
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 9:48am
| Yes I tried it yesterday and its much better :) |
Posted By: kevinh
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:49am
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I'm pleased and very pleasantly surprised how quickly this has been addressed. Note, what they have called Original is not quite as supplied with version 1.0. It now includes the missing pitching moment data table (473). The original FDE could be flown but was unstable in pitch. I'm mystified why they are providing FDE options. Surely there is one correct version which addresses the concerns where they are justified. Also, why offer the original version (plus table 473)? As there is no description of what the default and alternative version change it's hard to choose which one to use. Presumably one is more realistic in the eyes of the developer and the other offers further changes to satisfy requests. Which is which? Kevin |
Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 12:06pm
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There are brief descriptions on the support page - http://www.justflight.com/support/dove-devon/631b4d2" rel="nofollow - http://www.justflight.com/support/dove-devon/631b4d2 Stick with the 'standard' FDE, which is what the developer considers to be the most realistic FDE, unless you prefer the further increased performance (climb performance, trim rate etc) of the 'alternate' FDE. The original FDE has the missing table added (which was a bug) but should otherwise be the same as the original, i.e. no changes to climb performance, trim etc.
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Posted By: Bobcat
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 3:39pm
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Excellent! Just took it for a spin. Selected the default tutorial flight which is the BOAC Dove from Chester. This is now a completely different beast and an absolute joy to fly - it was a wrench to leave it to post this comment - this aircraft could turn out to be one of my all time favourites! First circuit I put it straight down on the centerline and right on the piano key first time! The poor pitching behaviour is now completely gone. It is very stable and requires hardly any trimming. - flies beautifully, docile but with real character at the same time; it feels alive! It now behaves just as you would expect, and you can adjust pitch with power. I took it up to 3000 feet and cut power, the nose lowered until it picked up speed (it plunged tail first with the old flight dynamics!), and in a forced power off stick right back stall, it buffeted, and dropped the nose nicely; I applied power and recovered in less than a thousand feet with no drama. For those who are complaining about the FDE, just leave it at standard and forget about it - job done! I think the original FDE is a waste of time, but for those saying they remember more 'spirited' performance, they can go option 3. For me the newer standard FDE is great and it gets off the runway in a decent amount of time. I quite like the drama of an extended take off run anyway, especially when listening to those engines at full beans - fantastic! There are quite a lot of other tweaks and fixes as well. All very good. Thanks to JsutFlight and the developers for fixing it so quickly. Just when I was beginning to wonder what was happening, up popped the service pack, and it is a job well done in my opinion.
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Posted By: Voice of Reason
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 4:12pm
Thanks for those kind words. "An all time favourite" - Let's hope so. :) |
Posted By: Christopher Low
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 6:07pm
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Any chance of a demo version in the near future? |
Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 12:09pm
We are looking into that possibility at the moment ------------- Martyn Just Flight Ltd |
Posted By: Bobcat
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 7:18pm
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I have flown the dove for many hours now after the first service pack. Whilst there are still a few small issues, the aircraft is now well on the way to being a classic in my opinion. It is a very immersive experience and now an absolute joy to fly. The visual model is superb, and the changes between the different versions keep it interesting to fly. Anyone who has the chance to demo it will surely end up buying it. |
Posted By: Voice of Reason
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 1:29pm
Thanks for the kind words Bob. Much appreciated.
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Posted By: flyforever
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 11:41am
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does any one know how to turn on the g430 on the Dove? Some instruments turn on, while others don't turn on. tony ------------- FV |
Posted By: snave
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 5:42pm
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