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Posted By: Guests
Subject: Pointless post
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 1:59pm
I was telling someone today that they could "talk the hind legs off a donkey", then I thought later what it actually meant.  As Google is everyones smartes friend I decided to look it up.
It appears that when a donkey has had enough of something they collapse on their hind legs, which makes sense. Anywho just wondered if any of you have any other explanations of odd things we say, but don't actually think about the meaning.



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Posted By: Rich
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 2:03pm
I always liked "Undermine". Apparently it comes from an old practice of ended a castle siege by tunnelling underneath the castle walls. 

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Posted By: MartinW
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 2:16pm

I'm sure you've heard the expression... 'a sea change.' Apparently we have Bill Shakespeare to thank for that. It means a radical, and apparently mystical, change. Not so much mystical these days.

 

Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell

 

Bill was responsible for more than anyone else apparently. Here’s but a few.

 

A sorry sight.

All that glitters is not gold.

As dead as a door nail. [Donkins nicked that for ‘A Christmas carol'

As pure as the driven snow.

Eaten out of house and home.

Fair play.

Foul play.

Green eyed monster.

I have not slept one wink.

 

And millions more.

 

Here’s a nautical one.

 

'Between the Devil and the deep blue sea'

Meaning

In difficulty, between two dangerous alternatives.

Origin

The phrase was originally 'Between the Devil and the deep sea'. The sea turned blue much later and the phrase became well-known via the title of a popular song. Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea was written by Ted Koehler and Harold Arlen, and recorded by Cab Calloway in 1931, although that version of the phrase may have been circulating earlier.



Posted By: MartinW
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 2:20pm

Cut and run

Meaning... Run away.

Origin

This term is the shortened form of the earlier phrases 'cut and run away' and 'cut and run off'. It has been suggested that it has a nautical derivation and that it refers to ships making a hasty departure by the cutting of the anchor rope and running before the wind. That isn't absolutely proven although the earliest known citation does come from a seafaring context. Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queene, 1590 has this line:



Posted By: Rich
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 2:35pm

Cut and paste

Meaning... Martin has been on Google again. Wink


Smell the cheese

Meaning... I've just guffed and I want you to enjoy it


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Posted By: MartinW
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 3:28pm
Originally posted by Cheeky Boy Ras Cheeky Boy Ras wrote:

Meaning... Martin has been on Google again. Wink
 
Wrong!!! Dead wrong!
 
Martin has been on Yahoo again. Wink
 
Martin's Insomnia
 
Meaning... Beware he lacks patience today.


Posted By: Old Flapper
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2008 at 3:59pm
'Raining cats and dogs'
In olden times dogs and cats might sleep in the upper loft area within the thatch of the roof. When rain was heavy the thatch bacames slippery and the pets would sometimes fall into the thresh or straw on the floor. Hence raining cats and dogs. Incidentally, that thresh was kept from spilling out into the street by means of a bar running across the floor between the door-posts, hence the name "threshold".
And in that house of old, on bathnight Fridays, the man of that house, dirty from his toils of the week would wash himself in the bathtub, then kindly allow his wife to bathe in those murky waters. She, having finished would allow the eldest child to partake of the bath and so on down the ranks until eventually the youngest offspring benefitted from the human soup of mud that ensued. The baby would have been well hidden in that murk, so hence the saying "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water".
'Freeze the balls off a brass monkey'
Meaning the "monkey" or stand on which cannon balls were piled. As the temperatures dropped, the balls contracted (come on fellas we've all suffered that) and dropped from the monkey.
There are a few more, but I cant remember them right now.


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Posted By: VulcanB2
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2008 at 12:44am

"Between a rock and a hard place"

Meaning

In difficulty, faced with a choice between two unsatisfactory options.

Origin

US origin. The earliest known printed reference is Dialect Notes V, 1921:

"To be between a rock and a hard place, ..to be bankrupt. Common in Arizona in recent panics; sporadic in California."

The 'recent panics' referred to in that citation are undoubtedly the events surrounding the Bisbee deportations of 1917. In Bisbee, Arizona, in the early years of the 20th century, a dispute between copper mining companies and mineworkers developed. In 1917, the workers, some of whom had organized in labour unions, approached the company management with a list of demands for better pay and conditions. These were refused and subsequently many workers at the Bisbee mines were forcibly deported to New Mexico.

Best regards,
Vulcan.



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