New Altimeter Gauge
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Topic: New Altimeter Gauge
Posted By: Tuppy
Subject: New Altimeter Gauge
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 8:25am
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Sorry for the double post, but my previous comment got sort of buried in another thread...
The new altimeter gauge is almost impossible to read, especially in a normal pilot view.
Why was this gauge changed? Admittedly, the previous three pointer type gauge was tricky to interpret. (As an aside, a friend who used to fly F27s for Ansett, said that that particular altimeter caused a number of incidents in real life) But it was usable. The new single pointer type is VERY difficult to read, the numbers showing the '1000s of feet are waaaay too small. (My fix is to create a new camera view, zoomed in. A tad inconvenient!) Any chance of a small fix (replacement altimeter gauge say..) ? Otherwise very happy with SP1, mind you, I was pretty happy before! chris from oz |
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Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 9:09am
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Hi Chris, I'm not sure why the gauge was changed but your feedback has been passed to the F27 project manager and developers to look at. Thanks Martyn ------------- Martyn Just Flight Ltd |
Posted By: mgr
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 8:30am
+1  Would be nice to have the old Altimeter back. Marcel |
Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 4:21pm
We are currently implementing a new altimeter  ------------- Martyn Just Flight Ltd |
Posted By: flyforever
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 7:13pm
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great news. tony ------------- FV |
Posted By: Merlin59
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 3:30am
Nice to hear from here as well. 
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Martyn wrote:Posted By: mgr
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 8:06am
Thanks for listening  Will it be like the old one:  or will it be a "normal" one, with also digits for the altitude, various Fokker-27 were fitted with these?  Also, as pointed out by others, could the developer also take a look at the "glide-slope", stick/flags in the ADI? (Was wondering if the "G" and the "G/S" flags, should be connected to the ILS knob?) Meaning if you have not selected the ILS it has no use that you have flags of the ILS?? Thanks, Marcel |
Posted By: kevinh
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 11:27am
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How about correcting the RPM gauge markings? The current ones have a long red arc, when it really should be a red radial at 15000 rpm. At the moment normal takeoff and climb rpm is in the red range according to the gauge. I would also echoe Marcel's comment about the ADI flags for ILS. They shouldn't be there unless you have ILS selected and no valid ILS tuned. Kevin |
Posted By: Deltahotel
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 1:32pm
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Well that image of the old one is seriously confusing. The 1000ft needle should be 1/3 of the way between the 1 and 2, and the 10000ft needle should at least be off its stop on the way to the first mini division. ------------- Dave H 
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Posted By: slowbird
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 5:15pm
| I am a new owner of the F-27. Hopefully we will have a readable altimeter very soon, with the current one this plane - in many ways very good - is pretty useless for me. Thanks for listening your customers! |
Posted By: slowbird
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 5:17pm
Oh, sorry, I forgot this in my previous post.  I would vote for this one!
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Posted By: flyforever
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 10:10pm
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I currently use a generic 2d altimeter as a pop up window, including the autopilot controls from another airplane, since the developers insist on not providing 2d popup windows. tony ------------- FV |
Posted By: A.Fokker
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2015 at 9:57pm
| Hi can you tell me how you did it? |
Posted By: flyforever
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2015 at 1:44pm
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If google "info gauge for fsx", you find a small gauge file that adds transparent altitude, airspeed, heading information in a 2 d window. In the same window, I have a autopilot and bendix radios. Of course, you need to create a new 2d window, or use the one that just flight provides. I use fspanel studio, which makes it very easy. tony ------------- FV |
Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2015 at 8:59am
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I've reported the ADI/ILS and RPM marking issues to the developer. Here is a screenshot of the new altimeter:  ------------- Martyn Just Flight Ltd |
Posted By: Tuppy
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2015 at 9:26am
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Much better ! Thanks Martyn chris from oz |
Posted By: slowbird
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2015 at 3:44pm
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Looking good. Hopefully we´ll have it soon! Do you give us just a simple .gau-file or a service pack?
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Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 9:17am
Several things are being fixed/improved so it'll be a service pack. ------------- Martyn Just Flight Ltd |
Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 9:19am
Regarding the ILS indications on the ADI, the developers have provided this reply:
Please let me know if you have any reference material which suggests that the current configuration is incorrect. ------------- Martyn Just Flight Ltd |
Posted By: kevinh
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 2:46pm
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Instrument flags mean there is a problem (i.e. power loss or tuned ILS signal not received). But if you have tuned a VOR frequency you shouldn't see ILS flags. Usually the tuning head will output a discrete signal to indicate to the flight instrument system that the frequency is either a VOR or ILS value. This is used to switch the failure detection logic. As this setup has an ILS switch that might be used to switch the logic instead. I don't have an F.27 manual reference but it is fairly standard flight instrument indication in aircraft of this era. Maybe an ex-F.27 pilot could confirm? This youtube video shows no ADI flags at any stage of the flight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNpl-pn16Bc Also, I've never seen an ADI which showed ALT HOLD on or off like this one. Usually when you switch the FD to Alt Hold the only indication you get is the FD bars become active rather than following the pitch knob. I thought it was a warning flag at first. Kevin |
Posted By: aviator49
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2015 at 12:22pm
| Having altimeter problem where the main K 'needle' is missing? Tried to re install but it's still not there. |