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146-200/300 Service Pack - Released!

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Topic: 146-200/300 Service Pack - Released!
Posted By: Martyn
Subject: 146-200/300 Service Pack - Released!
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 9:16am
The 146-200/300 service pack is now available. You can obtain it by downloading the updated version of the product from your Just Flight account. More details are available here: http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/146-200#Update1 - http://www.justflight.com/supportfaq/146-200#Update1

The 146-200 has now become 146-200/300 due to the addition of the 146-300 model and liveries included in the service pack.

This service pack includes the following content:

 
BONUS! 146-300 model with five liveries included
 
  • New - Panel selector icons added to virtual cockpit
  • New - FMC icon added to panel selector
  • New - NAV 2 radio icon added to panel selector
  • Auto-start functionality improved (clicking Auto start icon now sets up aircraft fully for takeoff)
  • New - Auto-shutdown functionality added (clicking on Auto start icon for a second time will configure aircraft in cold & dark state)
  • New - Ambient cockpit sound added
  • Slow/Fast scale on AI operating in reverse - fixed
  • Jetway alignment for passenger door not correct - fixed
  • FDE improved (aileron and rudder response etc)
  • No avionics power until engines are started - fixed
  • Clickspots for ALT SEL on 2D panel open VHF NAV radio popup - fixed
  • Green elevator trim band missing from virtual cockpit - fixed
  • Avionics section of overhead panel in 2D and virtual cockpit don't match - fixed
  • APU cannot be heard after start sound finishes - fixed
  • Altimeter resets to 2992/1013.2 rather than the correct pressure setting - fixed
  • Engine oil temperatures are too low (not in the green) at all operating conditions - fixed
  • GPWS multiple callouts (e.g ten-ten-ten) - fixed
  • Hydraulic systems are operating at 3400 psi, should be 3000 psi - fixed
  • AC sources (APU, engine generators and ext AC) are operating at 125 VAC, should be 115 VAC - fixed
  • DC TRUs are operating at 32 VDC, should be 28 VDC - fixed
  • V speed callouts operating midair - fixed


For 146 Livery & FMC pack users (in addition to the above)
 
BONUS! Four new 146-300 liveries included

 
  • FMC issue on non-English language PCs (FMC flightplan page showing 'iiii') fixed




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Martyn
Just Flight Ltd



Replies:
Posted By: Bernard33
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 10:27am
I have bought my 146-200 on simmarket (no account on just flight). How can I load these update ?


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 10:31am
The updated installers are being sent to third party websites such as SimMarket today. You will need to contact them to find out how to obtain the updated installers as this is likely to vary from website to website.

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Just Flight Ltd


Posted By: Bernard33
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 10:43am
Merci
This update is a good news !


Posted By: RegY
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 12:26pm
the update and the -300 fly perfect! just like the first edition! although....

Originally posted by Martyn Martyn wrote:


  • GPWS multiple callouts (e.g ten-ten-ten) - fixed
  • V speed callouts operating midair - fixed


in turbulent air, Vspeed callouts are still heard, the sensors in the plane must confuse turbulence with lift

GPSW on landing still does "10 10 10" although, i do not concider that a error.... that is why i never reported it.

great update! and perfect flight dynamics! love the rudder responce in crosswind landings! now this is a completelly perfect plane to be side by side with the carenados!

greets from Slovenia,
Reg


Posted By: chemanuel
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 5:21pm
I installed it today, still no sounds in the cockpit... only a very low tiny rumble.
Chemanuel


Posted By: RegY
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 5:35pm
i suggest you check your sound settings in fsx, if the engine sounds are set to low...

otherwise, there is a great sound pack out there for the 146... actually there's 2 to choose from.

i had it installed before the update, but right now the sounds are better than the soundpack, so i will be keeping the original.

cheers, Reg


Posted By: flyforever
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 5:53pm
good job. thanks.



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Posted By: KiwiFlyer
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 6:36pm
Am really liking the improvements to the original and new 300 expansion. The livery packs are also looking very sharp. Great job guys.


Posted By: Jim
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2012 at 6:49pm
Thanks JF for the 146 update,really enjoying it.Thumbs%20Up.
Jim.


Posted By: parksie10
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2012 at 8:55am
Good job JF, just one question. I notice that the artificial horizon still does not come to the horizontal when you turn on the avionics masters, this even though ground power is on. Am I missing something? Otherwise I've no problems and a huge thank you for the SA Airlink in your repaint packs. Nice to have the southern tip of Africa represented.

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Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 11:16am
I have got my copy of the 146 from Aerosoft, and when inquiring on the -300/SP upgrade I got the answer from Aerosoft, "I got no idea"

How am I going to get the upgrade - now? Please....

Kind Regards

Ole Andreasen


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 11:54am
Hi Ole,

Apologies for that. We sent the updated installers to our third party retailers on December 6th, so they should all have the new installer available by now.

I will contact Aerosoft as it sounds like they might not have received our e-mail.

Thanks
Martyn


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Martyn
Just Flight Ltd


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 11:55am
@Parksie10

If you haven't already done so, please report this to our support team.


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Martyn
Just Flight Ltd


Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 12:27pm
No problem Martyn. Absolutely great news that you will take action on the matter.

Thanks for the swift and precise answer. Merry Christmas.

Regards

Ole Andreasen


Posted By: Herky
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 9:26pm
Thinking of getting the download before christmas...As a present to myself!Wink
 
Can anyone clarify a couple of points please.
 
Does the updated download, with the SP on it, include the FMC? Or do I have to purchase the FMC pack add on?
 
Has the altitude callout been resolved (10,10,10,10?) and the V callouts at altitude in turbulance?
 
Are there any plans to release the EFIS avionics cockpit version, as in the Avro RJ series cockpit, featuring the GNLU910 FMC ?
 
Regards.
 
 

 


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Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 10:02pm
Originally posted by Martyn Martyn wrote:

Hi Ole,

Apologies for that. We sent the updated installers to our third party retailers on December 6th, so they should all have the new installer available by now.

I will contact Aerosoft as it sounds like they might not have received our e-mail.

Thanks
Martyn
 
I have been telling their news department who reported the update that it was not updated and I have a support ticket since last week telling them to update their accounts. I finally sent emails to their Sales and Marketing directors wondering about their lack of communication and support.
 
I finally figured out my mistake was buying a great product from a middleman was probably not the right thing to do. I do have an account with Just Flight and I should have bought it from them. I do not do business with people who do not care for their customers and have told them as much. I DO support people who provide a great product and support it so towards that end, I have re-purchased the same product again but this time I paid Just Flight directly.
 
Some may think this a bit foolish but, for me, it's not about the money. It's about customer support. I really like this product and I am satisfied with the support from Just Flight.
 
The bottom line for this, my first post.....great job on an excellent product and support!!!!!  I will be paying you directly for my Flight Sim products from now on.
 
Bobby


Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 10:19pm
I agree Bobby. I would have liked to have bought the 146 from JF myself, as I have so many products before, and everytime with satisfactory support, if needed, but I have also had excellent support from Aerosoft in the past, and cannot understand the lack of response in this case. Today I mailed with Shaun Fletcher from Aerosoft, and he told me that the files was now received and put online... but they are NOT. I myself may have to ante up and buy directly from JF also, to get the update promised.


Posted By: RegY
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 1:22am
i will probably be buying only from justflight, because so far, they are the only one that will accept direct bank money transfersfrom me... every other online store for fsx addons denied it, so i actually was only left to pirate it, even if i think the addon is really worth my money, but i am unable to pay for it, since i do not have paypal or a credit card. (damn retarded countries, right?)

Reg


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 8:42am
Thanks for the positive feedback Thumbs%20Up

We resent the details to Aerosoft yesterday so they should have it available soon. Its always a busy period for devs/publishers in the run up to Christmas so that might explain the delay.

If you are desperate for the update please contact us (support@justflight.com) and I will provide you with the updated installers directly.

Thanks
Martyn


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Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 8:55am
I have just sent you an email Martyn. I thank you for the offer, and would very much like to take advantage of it.

Merry Christmas to you and all at Just Flight. Fantastic products, fantastic costumer service. Thanks a lot.


Posted By: Herky
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 10:02am
Hello.....
 
Does the updated download, with the SP on it, include the FMC? Or do I have to purchase the FMC pack add on?
Has the altitude callout been resolved (10,10,10,10?) and the V callouts at altitude in turbulance?
Are there any plans to release the EFIS avionics cockpit version, as in the Avro RJ series cockpit, featuring the GNLU910 FMC ?
 
Anyone?


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Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 10:13am
Hi Herky,

The SP doesn't add the FMC to the base pack, you will still need to purchase the FMC & Livery pack.

The altitude and v-speed issues should be fixed.

Currently no plans to release an EFIS version.

Thanks
Martyn


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Just Flight Ltd


Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 10:37am
But its a cheap addon pack for the 146, and worth the money.


Posted By: Herky
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by Martyn Martyn wrote:

Hi Herky,

The SP doesn't add the FMC to the base pack, you will still need to purchase the FMC & Livery pack.

The altitude and v-speed issues should be fixed.

Currently no plans to release an EFIS version.

Thanks
Martyn
 
Thanks Martyn.
 
The exterior model looks superb, as does the front cockpit, very HD and I bet its still 1024Wink
 
Best Regards.


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Posted By: Deltahotel
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 9:42pm
Well thanks for the SP. There are some improvements, although I still think it lacks some rudder authority even with the slight .cfg tweak, but I can add some more. I still get an occasional random v-speed call when airborne but that is a minor thing. The VC instrument panels are brilliant although I do wish the radalt red/orange figures were less fuzzy. I still think it strange that positive rudder is required in any turn to keep the slip ball centred, which then produces what feels like an appropriate rate of turn for the speed and bank angle - this includes autopilot controlled heading changes. Perhaps this high wing high tail config in the real thing produces this effect, but I doubt it in a modern(ish) jet ... (it would slip the VIP's soup to one side of the bowl),

But thanks JF - the 146 is gorgeous to look at inside and out and great fun to operate.

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Posted By: 757man
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2012 at 4:59pm
Well, all has not gone so well it seems for me..!
I dont seem to have any cockpit sounds, no switch sounds, gpsw, warning sounds, however i have engine sounds?
Any ideas, no issues in the install?


Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2012 at 7:54pm
Originally posted by 757man 757man wrote:

Well, all has not gone so well it seems for me..!
I dont seem to have any cockpit sounds, no switch sounds, gpsw, warning sounds, however i have engine sounds?
Any ideas, no issues in the install?
 
Hi 757man,
 
I have just submitted a support ticket for the identical issue. You may also want to do the same with your system configuration to help them diagnose the problem. In my case, I also am missing some 146/200 liveries but I only have Prepar3d on my system and Prepar3d, unlike FSX doesn't have a box to check for variants in aircraft selection.
 
Otherwise the airplane has great flight characteristics and the graphics is outstanding. I just use visual cues in the cockpit till they get enough information to find the answer.
 
Bobby


Posted By: 757man
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2012 at 8:39pm
Hi, i may do, i dont think im missing any liveries, however i shall check again, could you PM me if you get any results? I couldnt agree more, stunning aicraft, the bae 146-200 was fine not sure whats going on here..!


Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 8:00am
757man,
 
I've figured out it's the Prepar3d installer because I can get the cockpit sounds to work with a dummy fsx.exe in the Lockheed Martin folder and running Prepar3d in Legacy Mode from the Start menu. I sent that info to JF support so I'll let you know when they get back to me.
 
I got so used to flying without the cockpit sounds it startled me when the master warning went off during start up oh how I laughed
 
Bobby


Posted By: 757man
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 8:09pm
So you reckon' I should get rid of 'prepar3d' installer? What is that?


Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 12:30am
Originally posted by 757man 757man wrote:

So you reckon' I should get rid of 'prepar3d' installer? What is that?
 
Hi 757man,
 
There is nothing to get rid of; the installer is built into the application software. JF designed it to be loaded into either FSX or Prepar3d. I don't know what you are using.....FSX or Prepar3d.....but it seems we have the same issue.
 
If I had tried to install a product only designed for FSX, then the installer wouldn't know where the different folders are in Prepar3d so.....to get it to work would be my problem, not the developer. Fortunately, I try to install only products designed with a Prepar3d installer for the support.
 
There is really nothing you or I can "do" till JF figures it out. Shouldn't be a big problem ffor them since the original 146/200 worked fine. It's just something in the service pack that changed.
 
Bobby


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 1:30pm
Hi,

We are currently working to address this installer issue.

Thanks
Martyn


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Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 5:13pm
Thanks Martyn,
 
No complaints from me. Other than this minor issue, the plane looks great and flies great. I am enjoying it every day. My ultimate goal is to be able to make enough "Air Hauler dollars" to fly it there Big%20smile
 
Bobby


Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 12:19am
Originally posted by Bobby Bobby wrote:



Thanks Martyn,
 
No complaints from me. Other than this minor issue, the plane looks great and flies great. I am enjoying it every day. My ultimate goal is to be able to make enough "Air Hauler dollars" to fly it there Big%20smile
 
Bobby


That's a great idea Bobby. I haven't used Air Hauler for quite a while, although I have it for both FSX and X-Plane...

But now I'll dust it off and get it to work again, and save bucks for flying the '146. Thanks for the idea.

And to Just Flight. No complaints from me either. I use the FSX version, and when the installer for P3D is fixed, Ill use it there also. All I need now, is the Quiet Trader expansion pack. On my list of soon-to-purchase. Hope there will be more expansion packs... I simply love the aircraft.


Posted By: 757man
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 8:45pm
Guys, this is becoming unnacceptable. We need an update, right now I do not have cockpit sounds, what are you doing about it, support did not come to any conclusion.


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 9:08am
Hi Drew,

The Prepar3D issue is being fixed but we have not yet been able to identify the causes of your sounds being missing in FSX, which isn't an issue that seems to be affecting other customers. We did send a follow up e-mail confirming this but it doesn't sound like you received it?

We are continuing to look into it but are happy to provide a refund or exchange if you would like to call it a day. Just let us know via e-mail.

Martyn


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Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 9:34am
Martyn

Are you sure that 757man is using FSX? You probably know, as he might have sent a support ticket, BUT from the other posts it seems that its the P3D version that has missing sounds in the cockpit.

I myself use both FSX and P3D versions, and have full sounds in FSX (apart from the fact that I hear no sounds when the gear is lowered/retracted, but I dont know if that is simulated...) I have click sounds from switches, and warning sounds galore... :-)

In P3D I have no sounds at all either. Yes engine sounds, but no warning sounds, no clicks of switches... just like the others explain.

And as 757man said in a post, about getting rid of the P3D installer, It seems to me that HIS problems are also P3D related.

The FSX version seems to work flawlessly.



Posted By: 757man
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 8:31pm
No, I am using FSX gold edition. I would like to keep the product.. please resend the email!


Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 8:57pm
Alright - Sorry 757man... I couldnt see that from your posts. This is indeed strange.

I reckon you have tried to uninstall and reinstall the ´146 and Service pack?


Posted By: 757man
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 4:57pm
I was a previous customer, a happy one, no issues, then unistalled the the 146-200 package as instructed and then the addon pack the livery pack, then installed the 146-300/200 package and then my livery packs.. one I purchased, and the one you gave free?


Posted By: Zigarten
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 2:33am
My third party vendor keeps sending a link that won't work, maybe you can PM me a link to just get it from you? I've been back and forth with e-mails all week and I still can't get to their site. DENIED.
I can confirm my order details as well.
Thank You


Posted By: Rich
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 8:53am
Hi Zigarten,

Drop our support team a message via support@justflight.com and they will be able to assist you.

Thanks


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Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 12:06pm
Rich... Could you please give us any news on the P3D installer/sound issue update?

Any timeframe for it, so we can have a perfect product.... please!


Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2013 at 10:49am
Anyone???


Posted By: Rich
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2013 at 10:57am
Hi,
Please get in touch with the support team. support@justflight.com


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Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2013 at 1:49pm
But I only need a timeframe on the post above where you guys yourself said that a fix for the installer/P3D sound issue is being made... Can you provide a timeframe for this? I love the AC in FSX, and would love to fly it in P3D also - with full sound system working. Thats all..

Great work on the Aircraft.


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2013 at 3:27pm
Unfortunately the developers were unable to identify the cause of the sound problem so we have removed Prepar3D from the compatibility section on the product page.

I have contacted you directly to explain the situation.


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Posted By: oleandreasen
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2013 at 6:01pm
Hey... no worries from me. I use FSX 99% of the time anyway, and well Oh damn! happens... Thank you for trying. And for FSX it is still THE Coolest product.


Posted By: solentflyer
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 2:44pm
Hi Martyn,

For those of us that exclusively use Prepar3D, are we entitled to a refund as, at the time of purchase, we were being told by Just Flight that the aircraft was compatible with P3D?

Kind regards,
Dennis


Posted By: Martyn
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 3:48pm
Hi Dennis,

Please drop us an e-mail via the support section on our website and we'll sort this out for you.

Thanks
Martyn


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Just Flight Ltd


Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by Martyn Martyn wrote:

Unfortunately the developers were unable to identify the cause of the sound problem so we have removed Prepar3D from the compatibility section on the product page.

 
Well, that is certainly unfortunate. It's my fault. I really should wait till other customers say the product works instead of buying on the release day. This seems to be the norm lately. Not singling out JF; I'm having the same issues with other vendors.
 
Not sure why the cause can't be found. If I put a dummy fsx.exe entry in Prepar3d and run Prepar3d in Legacy mode......the sound works.



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