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    Posted: 09 Sep 2008 at 6:02pm
I'm going away on the 15th of this month and am flying with First Choice and it got me thinking of last year when i flew with Thomson. At the end of the return flight i spoke to the pilots, and the Captain said he was licensed to fly the 757 and the 737, though because  of this didn't fly the 767. And he was due to fly the 737 the next day.
The First Officer was rated on the 757 and 767 but over the next few months would start training for the 737-800 while at the same time staying on the 767 but giving up the 757.
 
I was told Thomson were the first airline to do this in Europe and wondered if anyone knew if any other airlines took up this strategy.
Plus what 737 do you think the Captain was rated on? as Thomson have the 737-300/500 and 737-800. I think it would be the 737-300/500 as they have the ''half glass cockpit'' and if you think about it have a same layout of the 757 ( im just talking about the front where the PFD, speed tape etc is )
 
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I think the old SN Brussels crews were dual rated on both the 319 and the 330.  That way it was cheaper as less crews were needed.  I think this may still be happening at Brussels Airlines, which is what SN Brussels became when it merged. 
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Good info, but i mean about a total different aircraft, Mytravel and Thomas Cook have been doing that for years, having trained pilots on their A320 and A330 fleet.
 
what i mean is say a pilot flying a 767 then a 777 the next day, or as Thomson, flying a 737 then a 757/767
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The 757/767 has similar instruments, so basically you were dual rated for both aircraft with a little training. This is also the case with the Airbus 320 series and is meant to cut down on training etc, so saving airlines a shed load of money on training. I don't know why they have to give up a certain aircraft though. Maybe they have fly a certain amount of hours a year on a certain aircraft to keep the rating active. 
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Hi,

The 757/767 are considered to have a common type-rating. You are trained on the differences, then you have both on your license.

What we're talking about here is dual type-rating (in this case either the 757 or 767 and 737).

Because the 757/767 are similar, but different, and with the pilot also being certified to fly 737, they have to drop one of the common types. This is because of the problem of them being similar, but different.

The 737 and 767 (or 757) are considered different enough aircraft for a dual type-rating on those types to be permitted.

There are some types where a dual type-rating is not a good idea, e.g. flying both a 747-400 and a 747-200.

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Just to clarify i know pilots can be qualified to fly the 757/767, such as a pilot can fly an A320 one day then a 321 the next, what im trying to get at do any other airlines do the same as thomson, i think it would help british airways seeing as they have a horrible mix of 737/757/767's
 
And yes vulcan i dont think it would be a good idea to have a pilot flying a 747-400 one day then a 747-200 the next, basically because a 747-200 need 3 people in the cockpit and have the classic steam gauge anologue instruments
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Quote what im trying to get at do any other airlines do the same as thomson

Depends on the airline. Some consider it a safety risk, so don't permit it.

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