Very high VAS usage - OOM

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   Hi,

I had big hopes for the Tornado and I really love the plane.

The FPS are not my main problem. I have a very powerful PC which very likely compensates a lot.

The huge problem I have is VAS usage. I need to disable and turn down a lot of settings to be able to run the plane. With my normal configuration I run out of VAS within minutes.

I did some quick VAS testing with my default settings at EDDN. Numbers are taken on ground right after loading into the sim. Doing 2 full spinns in the VC and waiting 2min to let the VAS usage settle. Here the results:

Nemeth Designs BO-105   1,7GB free VAS
Lotus Sim L-39C   1,67GB free VAS
A2A Comanche   1,31GB free VAS
PMDG 737NGX   1,22GB free VAS
Aerosoft F14B   1,09GB free VAS
JustFlight Tornado GR1   0,7GB free VAS

As you can see the Tornados eats around 400MB more than the F14 which already was hard on VAS. I would be happy with at least 500MB less VAS usage which would make the plane usable.

I'm running P3D 2.5 and Windows 8.1 Pro if that matters. VC textures are set to 1024px, back cockpit is disabled via config.

I hope something can be done about VAS usage, otherwise the plane looks really nice.

Cheers
Andreas

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AG Nex Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 26 Jun 2015 Location: ETEJ Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote AG Nex Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Very high VAS usage - OOM Posted: 26 Jun 2015 at 7:28pm
	Hi, I had big hopes for the Tornado and I really love the plane. The FPS are not my main problem. I have a very powerful PC which very likely compensates a lot. The huge problem I have is VAS usage. I need to disable and turn down a lot of settings to be able to run the plane. With my normal configuration I run out of VAS within minutes. I did some quick VAS testing with my default settings at EDDN. Numbers are taken on ground right after loading into the sim. Doing 2 full spinns in the VC and waiting 2min to let the VAS usage settle. Here the results: Nemeth Designs BO-105 1,7GB free VAS Lotus Sim L-39C 1,67GB free VAS A2A Comanche 1,31GB free VAS PMDG 737NGX 1,22GB free VAS Aerosoft F14B 1,09GB free VAS JustFlight Tornado GR1 0,7GB free VAS As you can see the Tornados eats around 400MB more than the F14 which already was hard on VAS. I would be happy with at least 500MB less VAS usage which would make the plane usable. I'm running P3D 2.5 and Windows 8.1 Pro if that matters. VC textures are set to 1024px, back cockpit is disabled via config. I hope something can be done about VAS usage, otherwise the plane looks really nice. Cheers Andreas

Pip B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 25 Jun 2015 Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pip B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2015 at 8:16pm
	Just out of interest, how powerful is your PC, it would be interesting to hear what spec is required to the Tornado is actually running properly

AG Nex Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 26 Jun 2015 Location: ETEJ Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote AG Nex Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2015 at 8:54pm
	NP here we go: i7 4930k @4,4 Ghz 6 Cores / 12 Threads Asus Rampage IV Black Edition Mainboard 32GB DDR3 RAM 1600Mhz Quad Channel 2x 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD Raid 0 1GB/s read/write 128GB Cruical M4 SSD + 3TB HDD 7200rpm SSD cached 2x 3TB HDD 2x Gigabyte G1 GTX 980 SLI @ 1,4 Ghz boost clock Scenery is split to several HDD for better reads. Sim + planes are on SSD Raid. The reason I run such a beast are my monitors: 3x Asus ROG Swift, G-Sync, Nvidia Surround, 7830x1440 pixels I get fps in the range of 25-30 with dips into the 20. I tweaked my sim for exactly this range which is perfect with G-Sync. The Tornado seems a bit more stuttery but luckily not as bad as for other people.

Martyn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Just Flight Staff Development Manager Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: Huntingdon, UK Points: 7615	Post Options Post Reply Quote Martyn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2015 at 9:44pm
	Hi Andreas, We will look into this issue in parallel to investigating the performance issue. If you haven't already done so, please submit a ticket to the support team. Thanks Martyn - JF
	Martyn Just Flight Ltd

AG Nex Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 26 Jun 2015 Location: ETEJ Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote AG Nex Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2015 at 11:20pm
	Done. Will try the hotfix and dig into the Tornado a bit more this weekend. Keep up the good work!

triplemurray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Location: Chester Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote triplemurray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 2015 at 11:06pm
	I had similar problems when I first tried mine out. Seemed to be using nearly 1gb more VAS when this aircraft was loaded in. The hotfix did bring this down a little bit but not by much. I also had to lower most of my other settings and disable most world scenery to stop FSX crashing as soon as it had loaded into free flight.