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Cowpatz
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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 9:46am |
First of all thanks very much for producing a much needed F27.
It has been many years since I flew the F27 for real. Here are my first impressions:
I sincerely hope that either 2D panels are coming or at least pop ups. The latter is really needed for ease of use and so that they can be placed on other screens. If you have yet to see the F27 panel by Fraser McKay then you this may help in understanding the value of pop ups. This would also give a very good indication as to what pop ups would be needed. An ADI/HSI pop up would make viewing these instruments easier too (as in the iFly 737/747) If this were done you will truly have a top class model and one that everyone will get the maximum enjoyment from. EDIT: I have been made aware of a change to operating procedure since I flew the aircraft. In 1992 the FAA issued a STC allowing the aircraft to be operated in LOCKOUT all the time. This was for the 500 but I presume also for the 100 series Cheers |
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Haseen
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Dear Cowpatz:
I fully agree with you and thank you for such a nice post. I saw the Fokker F27s(-200 & -600) in detail back in early 80's when Biman used to operate them. I purchased Just Flight Fokker F27 thinking it would be as good as Fraser McKay's. But no. Will Just Flight notice what you pointed out and take action? I am also looking for prop RPM sychronizer guarded switch and a functioning fuel trimming system. I wish Fraser McKay could make a payware Fokker F27 and Fairchild F-27 in 3D for FSX. By the way, I can use Fraser McKay's (and Mike Stone, FSX version) Fokker F27 and Fairchild F-27 with 2D panel in fs2004. But in FSX I can't start the engines. Could you please help me to work them in fsx? Regards, Haseen Ahmad Avionics Engineer Biman Bangladesh Airlines Bangladesh.
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sharpas58
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thank you cowpatz for also believing 2d panels are essential, I am not happy
this new trend of developers producing their products without them , true it`s not aimed at the topend of the market but it is`nt a cheep product either , I`m holding off till this omission is remedied , plus I would prefer a little soiling on the textures too , these are work-horses after all NoelE |
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Cowpatz
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I would just like to make it clear that I made my comments with a "positive tone" and not one of bagging the product. This is one of the problems with text...no tone in the delivery. It is really great to see a F27 for P3D. Like most products things only come to light after release.
I sincerely hope that the developer continues his fine work and takes on board some of the user suggestions (or at least a declaration of intention one way or the other) so that this model can be truly first class without reservation. Haseen: I went straight from FS9 to P3D so I cannot help with getting the Mike Stone/Fraser McKay machine to work in FSX. I would suggest going onto the Classic British Flight Sim forum as you may well find something there. http://www.cbfsim.co.uk Calclassics have Mike Stones F27 for FSX (not sure of the panel though) http://www.calclassic.com |
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Mike70
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Regarding the ADI:
I think the "curved horizon line" is really an attempt to make the inner portion look like a sphere rather than a disk - maybe that is what you mean. The poor lighting effects also do not help discerning indications on the ADI. Spherical-style ADIs are not particularly more mechanically elaborate than the disk style but are more easily interpreted in real life - all US services adopted them when Lear made their first MIL-SPEC versions (we called them LEAR Liars") in the 1950s. However, transferring their advantage in two dimensions leaves a lot to be desired if it is not done right. UNFORTUNATELY and ONCE AGAIN - JF has got the ADI presentation WRONG!! Like their DC-8s, the bank index arrow moves in the wrong direction against the upper bank index scale - i.e. when you bank to the right, the arrow index should move to the left on the index scale - both these planes do the opposite, I posted this comment regarding the DC-8 some time ago, and still no response. |
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flyforever
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I wrote to support regarding 2d panel omissions, and they, politely, told me to move on with the times.
To provide the option to install 2d panels is not necessarily a bad option. tony |
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