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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2009 at 7:04pm
Tea can be just as bad as coffee though for caffeine
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2009 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by Marmite Marmite wrote:

Tea can be just as bad as coffee though for caffeine


Misconception.  It obviously has got caffeine in last thing at night Horlix would be better, but coffee has alot more.

The only time tea has got more in than coffee is in plant form I beleive.

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Main point.  Just take it easy with coffee and sugar. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2009 at 9:10pm

The bits you quoted are referring to the consumption of excessive amounts of sugar. Most do not consume this amount, so what was quoted is completely irrelevant.

 

The vast majority of us, probably allof us in the western world consume excess sugar. Refined sugar is bad That's an undeniable medical fact. 

 

As for enzymes, AFAIK, the only food to contain enzymes already is baby food. Is that what you eat Chris? In that case, the quote is applicable to you.

 

Odai you do make me smile sometimes.

 

Enzyme: any of various proteins, as pepsin, originating from living cells and capable of producing certain chemical changes in organic substances by catalytic action, as in digestion.

 

If enzymes were absent from foods except baby food we would indeed be in trouble.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 1:54am
Martin, how can there be any enzymes in food????
 
Honestly, you do talk rubbish sometimes. If our food was covered in enzymes, how is it we need to digest it in our bodies? If amylase was present in our food, then why is it potatoes are full of starch rather than the digested product, glucose?
 
Same for protein; if meat was full of enzymes we would be consuming broken down amino acids.
 
The definition you posted proves my point. The enzymes we need are globular proteins manufactured in the acinar cells of the pancreas, and certain cells in the gastric pits of the stomach. They are made out of amino acids that are the products of broken down proteins (proteins which we consume and digest).
 
Baby food has the enzymes already there so that the food is considerably easier to digest for the young infant.
 
Martin, where do you get your facts from? For someone who supposedly knows so much about general science, I was surprised by your response.
 
BTW, if there are any enzymes remaining in the flesh of an animal that has been recently butchered, it's quickly destroyed when the food is cooked (as proteins (polypeptides) are denatured at temperatures higher than approx 40C).
 
As for the sugar, I meant nobody consumes enough of the refined stuff for it to be detrimental.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 1:59am
Odai this is why you got totally PWND today.  



"Honestly, you do talk rubbish sometimes."


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 1:59am
Odai, are you a scientist?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 12:17pm

Chris, grow up seriously. If someone is rude to me, I'll be just as rude to them.

In Kontrol, no, I just finished my A-levels and two of them were Chemistry and Biology. So, I covered biological molecules and respiration in a lot of detail.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 4:27pm
If your refering to Martin, Odai, I dont think he was rude at all .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by Odai Odai wrote:

In Kontrol, no, I just finished my A-levels and two of them were Chemistry and Biology. So, I covered biological molecules and respiration in a lot of detail.


Exactly so I would let the REAL brain boffins tell us what's good and what's bad. I shall eat what I see fit.

2 sugars in my tea is plenty for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 4:54pm
You don't need a boffin to tell you about something so simple...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 5:04pm
well why is it known. . . as bascially a universal fact that refined sugar is bad for you ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 7:55pm
I can't understand what you're saying...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:09pm

I'll rephrase just for you Odai.

Its generally known through out the world (mainly the west) that refined sugar is bad for you.

Why do you argue against this ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:23pm
Martin, how can there be any enzymes in food????
 
Honestly, you do talk rubbish sometimes.
 
This was the comment you made...
 
As for enzymes, AFAIK, the only food to contain enzymes already is baby food.
 
Hence my response.
 
All raw foods contain enzymes. Cooked foods can also contain enzymes, although the act of cooking destroys enzymes to varying degrees dependant on temperature. It's generally accepted that above 116 degrees Fahrenheit most enzymes are destroyed.. the body manufacturers 22 digestive enzymes to aid digestion. Interestingly, stomach acid deactivates enzymes in food. The enzymes are then reactivated in the more alkaline small intestine.
 
 How about an apology for telling me I talk rubbish?  Wink
 
P.S don't try and wriggle out of it by claiming you meant the enzymes are there , but just destroyed by cooking and that you only meant cooked food, your statement in bold above was clear to all.
 
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The enzymes in raw foods are destroyed by heat

Most raw food, like our bodies, is very perishable. When raw foods are exposed to temperatures above 118 degrees, they start to rapidly break down, just as our bodies would if we had a fever that high. One of the constituents of foods which can break down are enzymes.[/quote]

 
Quote Cooked foods contribute to chronic illness, because their enzyme content is damaged and thus requires us to make our own enzymes to process the food.
 
Quote Eating enzyme-dead foods places a burden on your pancreas and other organs
 
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Raw foods and digestive enzymes

Let's get back to enzymes. Raw foods are rich in enzymes. Enzymes are needed for the digestive system to work. They are necessary to break down food particles so they can be utilized for energy. The human body makes approximately 22 different digestive enzymes which are capable of digesting carbohydrates, protein and fats. Raw vegetables and raw fruit are rich sources of enzymes.

[quote]While all raw foods contain enzymes, the most powerful enzyme-rich food is sprouted seeds, grains, and legumes. Sprouting increases the enzyme content in these foods enormously.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:51pm
Right white sugar is bad for you and that is what i have been having in my coffee so i am now down to 1-2 cups now. What if in those 2 cups i have brown sugar instead of white as they say brown sugar is better for you. How do white and brown compare ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:59pm
Sorry for the behaviour above Alan.
 
Lets stop the childish squabbling shall we lads and answer Alan's question in a mature fashion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 9:00pm
Hey GBL:  I cant scientifically explain brown sugar compared to white but yes it is better for you.

I still wouldnt recommend above 2 spoonfuls of brown though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by MartinW MartinW wrote:

Sorry for the behaviour above Alan.
 
Lets stop the childish squabbling shall we lads and answer Alan's question in a mature fashion.


What side of the bed did you get out of this morning? Or can someone not take a joke?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 9:12pm
I think the childish squabbling I was referring to is quite clear.
 
Alan began this topic to get answers, it's a bit disrespectful to mutate his topic into a 'yes it is no it isn't' squabble.
 
Unfortunately, your delightful contribution to the topic above has resulted in it being locked.
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