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Marmite
Chief Pilot Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Points: 1029 |
Posted: 17 Jul 2009 at 7:04pm | |||
Tea can be just as bad as coffee though for caffeine
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737Chris
Chief Pilot Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Location: The Abyss Points: 2247 |
Posted: 17 Jul 2009 at 8:37pm | |||
Misconception. It obviously has got caffeine in last thing at night Horlix would be better, but coffee has alot more. The only time tea has got more in than coffee is in plant form I beleive. QI Main point. Just take it easy with coffee and sugar. |
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MartinW
Moderator in Command Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom Points: 26722 |
Posted: 17 Jul 2009 at 9:10pm | |||
The bits you quoted are referring to the consumption of excessive amounts of sugar. Most do not consume this amount, so what was quoted is completely irrelevant. The vast majority of us, probably allof us in the western world consume excess sugar. Refined sugar is bad That's an undeniable medical fact. As for enzymes, AFAIK, the only food to contain enzymes already is baby food. Is that what you eat Chris? In that case, the quote is applicable to you. Odai you do make me smile sometimes. Enzyme: any of various proteins, as pepsin, originating from living cells and capable of producing certain chemical changes in organic substances by catalytic action, as in digestion. If enzymes were absent from foods except baby food we would indeed be in trouble. |
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Odai
Chief Pilot Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: NW England Points: 3731 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 1:54am | |||
Martin, how can there be any enzymes in food????
Honestly, you do talk rubbish sometimes. If our food was covered in enzymes, how is it we need to digest it in our bodies? If amylase was present in our food, then why is it potatoes are full of starch rather than the digested product, glucose?
Same for protein; if meat was full of enzymes we would be consuming broken down amino acids.
The definition you posted proves my point. The enzymes we need are globular proteins manufactured in the acinar cells of the pancreas, and certain cells in the gastric pits of the stomach. They are made out of amino acids that are the products of broken down proteins (proteins which we consume and digest).
Baby food has the enzymes already there so that the food is considerably easier to digest for the young infant.
Martin, where do you get your facts from? For someone who supposedly knows so much about general science, I was surprised by your response.
BTW, if there are any enzymes remaining in the flesh of an animal that has been recently butchered, it's quickly destroyed when the food is cooked (as proteins (polypeptides) are denatured at temperatures higher than approx 40C).
As for the sugar, I meant nobody consumes enough of the refined stuff for it to be detrimental.
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737Chris
Chief Pilot Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Location: The Abyss Points: 2247 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 1:59am | |||
Odai this is why you got totally PWND today.
"Honestly, you do talk rubbish sometimes." |
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In Kontrol
P1 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Location: Cumbria, UK Points: 711 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 1:59am | |||
Odai, are you a scientist?
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Odai
Chief Pilot Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: NW England Points: 3731 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 12:17pm | |||
Chris, grow up seriously. If someone is rude to me, I'll be just as rude to them. In Kontrol, no, I just finished my A-levels and two of them were Chemistry and Biology. So, I covered biological molecules and respiration in a lot of detail.
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737Chris
Chief Pilot Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Location: The Abyss Points: 2247 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 4:27pm | |||
If your refering to Martin, Odai, I dont think he was rude at all .
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In Kontrol
P1 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Location: Cumbria, UK Points: 711 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 4:35pm | |||
Exactly so I would let the REAL brain boffins tell us what's good and what's bad. I shall eat what I see fit. 2 sugars in my tea is plenty for me. |
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Odai
Chief Pilot Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: NW England Points: 3731 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 4:54pm | |||
You don't need a boffin to tell you about something so simple...
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737Chris
Chief Pilot Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Location: The Abyss Points: 2247 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 5:04pm | |||
well why is it known. . . as bascially a universal fact that refined sugar is bad for you ?
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Odai
Chief Pilot Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: NW England Points: 3731 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 7:55pm | |||
I can't understand what you're saying...
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737Chris
Chief Pilot Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Location: The Abyss Points: 2247 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:09pm | |||
I'll rephrase just for you Odai. Its generally known through out the world (mainly the west) that refined sugar is bad for you. Why do you argue against this ? |
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MartinW
Moderator in Command Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom Points: 26722 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:23pm | |||
Martin, how can there be any enzymes in food????
Honestly, you do talk rubbish sometimes.
This was the comment you made...
As for enzymes, AFAIK, the only food to contain enzymes already is baby food.
Hence my response.
All raw foods contain enzymes. Cooked foods can also contain enzymes, although the act of cooking destroys enzymes to varying degrees dependant on temperature. It's generally accepted that above 116 degrees Fahrenheit most enzymes are destroyed.. the body manufacturers 22 digestive enzymes to aid digestion. Interestingly, stomach acid deactivates enzymes in food. The enzymes are then reactivated in the more alkaline small intestine.
How about an apology for telling me I talk rubbish?
P.S don't try and wriggle out of it by claiming you meant the enzymes are there , but just destroyed by cooking and that you only meant cooked food, your statement in bold above was clear to all.
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GBL
P1 Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Location: Hassocks. UK Points: 740 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:51pm | |||
Right white sugar is bad for you and that is what i have been having in my coffee so i am now down to 1-2 cups now. What if in those 2 cups i have brown sugar instead of white as they say brown sugar is better for you. How do white and brown compare ?
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MartinW
Moderator in Command Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom Points: 26722 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 8:59pm | |||
Sorry for the behaviour above Alan.
Lets stop the childish squabbling shall we lads and answer Alan's question in a mature fashion.
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737Chris
Chief Pilot Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Location: The Abyss Points: 2247 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 9:00pm | |||
Hey GBL: I cant scientifically explain brown sugar compared to white but yes it is better for you.
I still wouldnt recommend above 2 spoonfuls of brown though. |
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In Kontrol
P1 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Location: Cumbria, UK Points: 711 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 9:07pm | |||
What side of the bed did you get out of this morning? Or can someone not take a joke? |
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MartinW
Moderator in Command Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom Points: 26722 |
Posted: 18 Jul 2009 at 9:12pm | |||
I think the childish squabbling I was referring to is quite clear.
Alan began this topic to get answers, it's a bit disrespectful to mutate his topic into a 'yes it is no it isn't' squabble.
Unfortunately, your delightful contribution to the topic above has resulted in it being locked.
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