'Pupil murder bid' teacher held

Good grief, we had some dodgy teachers when I was a lad but that's a shocker.

 

Sounds like the teacher went bananas.

 

 

A science teacher has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a boy of 14 and two other pupils were hurt at a Nottinghamshire school. The boy is said to be in a serious condition in hospital following the incident at All Saints' Roman Catholic School in Mansfield. Science teacher Peter Harvey, 49, is being questioned by detectives. Det Supt Adrian Pearson said a weapon was used and there were a "number of witnesses". Police said the incident took place at the school in Broomhill Lane on Wednesday.

 

I said it 'sounds like...'

 

We are allowed to speculate as we aren't the police.

 

It's also worth pointing out that the teacher has been arrested on the grounds of 'attempted murder'

 

I hardly thing he would have attacked two other children also, if he was defending himself against one armed pupil. Unless a gang of them were attacking him and then the suspicion wouldn't be attempted murder.

 

He is also being questioned about alleged attacks on two other schoolchildren.

 

Sounds like [speculating again] that the kids were giving him a rough time and he snapped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course it's too soon, precisely why I didn't SAY he went bananas, I simply speculated that maybe he did!

 

Speculating is allowed on forums and human nature. We aren't the authorities who aren't allowed to do such things.

 

I'm logging off I think, it's wind Martin up night.

 

The media haven't at all said it's the fault of the teacher. Not the media I've been listening to. They have simply reported that the guy had been charged with attempted murder.

 

I'm not an expert in the law, but I doubt a push resulting in a head injury would warrant a charge of attempted murder.

 

He did not bang his head, he was struck on the head with an object.

 

He is also being questioned regarding alleged attacks on two other children.

 

Regardless of lack of discipline in schools, acting as a catalyst for aggression, a teacher striking a child on the head with a blunt object enough to endanger his life is extreme.

 

I think we are all aware that we are speculating, but such an action seems indicative of an emotional breakdown.

 

Attempted murder is not a side effect of a push, it's a premeditated attempt to kill someone.

 

The police don't charge someone with attempted murder on a whim, they do so if they feel they have a strong case.

 

Time will tell if the charge sticks or not. Or if psychiatric help is required.

 

In English criminal law, attempted murder is the crime of more than merely preparing to commit unlawful homicide and at the same time having a specific intention to cause the death of human being under the Queen's Peace. The phrase "more than merely preparatory" is specified by the Criminal Attempts Act 1981 to denote the fact that preparation for a crime by itself does not constitute an "attempted crime."

 

He was ultimately found guilty of manslaughter.  He obviously hadnt intended to kill the woman but his actions had caused her death and therefore he had been charged with murder.   The law seems very black and white sometimes.  In my experience the charges relate in many cases to the severity of the injuries regardless of the intentons of the agressor, therefore while the teacher may not have been trying to kill the pupil, the resulting injuries from the attack warrant the charge of attempt murder.  It certainly raises many questions.  Whist I dont condone the actions of the teacher, I can understand the frustrations that can lead to such a thing. I'm in the same age group as the teacher (and you, Martin) and can remember when discipline in schools was firm if not always fair. Todays teachers have their hands very muh tied as the law is firmly on the side of the pupils.  They, the teachers have my sympathy.

 

rory