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If you have the aircraft best thing to do would be to flight test it with real world weather off. Find an efficient FL and find the ground speed you want and see what it burns.

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According to the Dessault site
 
MTOW should be 69000
Empty Weight should be 34272
Fuel Should be 31940 (or 4767 USG)
Cargo Capacity 2788
 
 
This plane from
 
MTOW = 63600
Empty = 35000
Fuel = 28897 (4313 USG)
Cargo Capacity = -297
 
You can simulate by changing the empty weight to 31915
 

RANGE
5,950 nm
(8 passengers, Mach .80, NBAA IFR reserves, 3 crew)

The cruse speed will very by the weight of the plane, altitude flying and certain weather conditions.  It doesn't matter to much in AH, I'd just leave at the default. 
 
For the Fuel consumtion value, you need to follow the tip in this thread
 
Second from the last entry.
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Thanks for the assist. I made some modifications and have the aircraft imported correctly!

Again, many thanks for helping out.

Michael
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Hi all.
If you have the DC10 COLLECTION or the A340 500/600 addon for FSX and you want to use them in AH just load up FSX go in to the section for selecting your aircraft and click on the DC10 or A340 of your choice click details at the bottom and all the data for the aircraft is there.
I hope this helps.Tongue


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Hey All Smile

 I don't know if anyone has already posted this. (too lazy to do research, kinda)

 If you like flying military cargo a/c then I found a pdf file that lists just about every air force a/c in the inventory. No range rates that I could find BUT it has speeds, cargo cap. and most importantly, those hard to find fuel burn rates (I really thought the C-17 woulda been more fuel efficient.Ranks right up there with the C-5)

See ya on the tarmac!
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Hokay, DUH!

 Woulda helped if I had included the THREAD, right?

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/usaf/docs/afpam10-1403.htm

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I search the Data from the Cessna L-19 Bird Dog from sibwing

Gallons per hour and Range ?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_O-1_Bird_Dog

Range is given, get Gals per hour from flying with a stopwatch.
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http://www.airbaltic.com/public/fleet.html

I found this Air Baltic site, alot of aircraft info including range and fuel burn.

Boeing 757–200
Boeing%20757–200

Number of aircraft - 2
Number of seats - 200
Max take-off weight - 115 metric tons
Max payload - 23 metric tons
Lengths - 47.3 m
Wing span - 38 m
Cruising speed - 800 km/h
Commercial range - 7222 km
Fuel consumption - 3900 l/h
Engine - Rolls Royce RB211-535R4

 

 

Boeing 737–500
Boeing%20737–500

Number of aircraft - 6
Number of seats - 120/126
Max take-off weight - 57 metric tons
Max payload - 13.5 metric tons
Lengths - 31 m
Wing span - 28.9 m
Cruising speed - 800 km/h
Commercial range - 3500 km
Fuel consumption - 3000 l/h
Engine - CFM56-3

The 737 family is the best-selling jetliner family in aviation history, with more than 5,200 737s sold. The first 737-500 rolled out of the Renton plant June 3, 1989.

The engines are produced by CFM International, jointly owned by General Electric of the U.S. and SNECMA of France. They assure that the 737-500 is a good community neighbor with takeoff, sideline and approach noise levels below the Stage 3 limits set by the U.S. government and recommended by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

 

  

 

Boeing 737–300
Boeing%20737–300

Number of aircraft - 8
Number of seats - 149
Max take-off weight - 62.8 metric tons
Max payload - 14.2 metric tons
Lengths - 32.18 m
Wing span - 31.22 m
Cruising speed - 900 km/h
Commercial range - 3500 km
Fuel consumption - 3000 l/h
Engine - CFM56-3C-1 

 

  


 

Q400 NextGen
Q400%20NextGen

Number of aircraft - 8
Number of seats - 76
Max take-off weight - 29.6 metric tons
Max payload - 8.6 metric tons
Lengths - 32.83 m
Wing span - 28.42 m
Cruising speed - 667 km/h
Commercial range - 2084 km
Fuel consumption - 1074 l/h
Engine - P&W 150A

Dash 8 Q400 NextGen is a two turboprop driven engine aircraft manufactured by Canadian firm Bombardier.

The 76-seat aircraft can fly up to 2 000 kilometers with a single tank of fuel, it is used not only to shorter regional routes, such as flights to Scandinavia, but on longer flights to major European destinations as well.

Aircraft is very quiet - the "Q" in the plane's name stands for Quiet, and very comfortable for passengers. One of the greatest benefits of the aircraft is it's contribution to helping preserve the environment - the Q400 uses less fuel (approximately 30% less than older, inefficient jets of the same size) and produces less emissions than similar aircraft.

 

  


 

Fokker 50
Fokker%2050

Number of aircraft - 10
Number of seats - 46/50/52
Max take-off weight - 20.8 metric tons
Max payload - 4.9 metric tons
Lengths - 25.3 m
Wing span - 29.0 m
Cruising speed - 520 km/h
Commercial range - 1300 km
Fuel consumption - 800 l/h
Engine - P&W 125 B

I know this isn't freighters, but it's a pointer. Hope it helps. Smile
(1 USgal = 3.8 Liter) 
(1 Nautical mile = 1,852 km)

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Had a play with the C/S 727-100 last night and came up with ~7096lbs/hr at FL340 and M0.80.  No idea what load was on there because I'm not sure how to drive the ACE yet!

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Hey, can someone please be so kind and post their numbers for the following planes:

Aerosoft Beaver X
Just Flight A320
Just Flight DC3
Carenado Beechcraft Baron 58
Carenado Mooney M20J
Carenado Seneca
Carenado C340II

I am tired of flying the default Caravan and not smart enough to get the numbers for those planes! Cry

Thanks in advance!
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Had a play with the CS C-130E too.  At FL205, 250KIAS (full power) it was 1,314USG/hr.
 
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Here is a useful site for the majority of commercial transport planes flying around the world.

http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/
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Airbus Collection and DC 10 Collection
 
Hi all.  I've just purchased these two collections.  I've searched in this thread and online and cannot find the required data to import into AH.  Does anyone have the data for the DC10, A300-600R,A310 and the A300-600ST?  many thanks!
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Just Flight DC3,
Cruise speed 135 kts (remember vc cockpit show mph)
flap and gear speed same as default dc 3
Empty weight 16016lbs (you have to edit this in aircraft config)
Cargo capacity 5360lbs ( i know this is low but i didn t want to lower the empty weight to much)
Max fuel 804 gallons
Range 1415nm
Fuel burn 78gals per hour
i calculated the fuel burn by flying at 15000feet, 135 knots IAS, with weather off
 
 
If the wings are moving faster than the fuselage you`re in a helicopter and therefore unsafe
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Some very useful links here, a big thanks to those who have put the hard work in finding out the info.
Is the fuel burn in AH referring to lbs or gallons and do we really need to add this value? What happens to imported aircraft if you can only add the figures for max. range but can't add the fuel burn figure, will they still be usable in AH without causing any problems?
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Fuel Consumption must be entered in US Gallons/hr.

From the "Useful Info and Top Tips" thread in this forum...

DETERMINING FUEL CONSUMPTION

There are at least three ways to get fuel consumption info...

1) Look it up on line.  It's a statistic that's often difficult to find, but sometimes you get lucky.

2) If you know the range, cruise speed and fuel capacity you can work it out.

You divide range by cruise speed to get endurance, then divide fuel capacity by endurance.  That will get you there.  The result will probably be a little rough, but good enough for AH.

3) Fly the plane in FS in a non-AH flight.

Climb to a typical cruise altitude and set a typical cruise power setting.

Using the panel clock as a time reference...

Open the Fuel & Payload menu...  Top Line Menu -> Aircraft -> Fuel & Payload

Read the fuel quantity from the F & P menu

Return to the sim

When exactly 10 minutes has elapsed by the panel clock go back to the F & P menu and read the fuel quantity again.

Subtract the two to determine how much you burned in ten minutes.  Multiply that by six to determine how much you will burn in an hour.

Note that this will be in pounds and AH wants the fuel consumption in US gallons.  To convert pph to USG/hr...

If Jet A divide by 6.7

If 100LL divide by 6.0


Note that the fuel consumption value that you enter in AH does not affect the way it performs in FS.  AH uses that value for job generation, AH scheduling, etc - only things internal to AH.  Note also that fuel burn is NOT affected by AC weight, only by density altitude and power setting.  Speed will vary with AC weight, but fuel burn will not if the power setting remains constant.

 
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OK thanks for pointing that out allardjd......
Sounds like it's going to take a few weeks to collect this info for all the add on planes....haha
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Check out Advanced Flight Simulator Data if you're having trouble finding fuel burn data. Included in there is a fantastic little program called Advanced Flight Simulator Jet Cruise Calculator, which will allow you to calculate that data yourself, directly from the FS aircraft data. If you have a typical cruise altitude and a cruise speed (Mach or IAS), plus the calculated payload weight from Air Hauler, you can get instantaneous fuel flow, or beginning and ending fuel flow for a given range up to the maximum (which you can then average).



This is a sample from the great Thomas Ruth 727-200ADV (with a few minor tweaks of my own).

Click the "Load aircraft data" button and browse to the folder containing your aircraft. Enter a typical cruise altitude and speed, max fuel (it will tell you max fuel possible when you click in that field), and max payload (calculated manually or by AH). You can enter 0 in the distance for an instantaneous fuel burn calculation (10,256 lbs, in this case), or average the initial and final fuel flows over a max range run (9,716 lbs). Divide by 6.7 lbs per gallon and there's your data for AH (1450 average for the 3000 nm run).

You can use this to calculate your FL stepping, as the calculator will let you know if you can't generate enough thrust for the entered FL and weight. Also potentially useful are the IAS-at-altitude calculation (in the "Cruise speeds" section), and the N1% calculations at the beginning and end of the run (if you prefer to fly hands-on).
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C/S 707-300 range of 5,750nm from Wiki, fuel burn worked out at 2149USG/hr at FL310, M0.81.
 
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