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Type
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Max Payload
Tonnes
Max Loadable Volume CBM3 Cargo Hold Dims
LxWxH cm
Cargo Door Size
WxH cm
Beech 200 Kingair 1.2 5 280 x 124 x 138 132 x 138
Cessna 406 Titan 1.2 6.5 320 x 120 x 117 124 x 116
Fairchild Metroliner II 1.4 12 835 x 115 x 120 130 x 132
Fairchild Metroliner III 2.1 12 775 x 158 x 145 130 x 132
Fairchild Metroliner 23 2.3 18 775 x 158 x 145 127 x 132
Falcon 20 / 200 2.5 11 704 x 156 x 142 190 x 140
Shorts 360 3.5 40 815 x 190 x 190 142 x 168
Aerospatiale ATR42 4.6 40 1080 x 225 x 143 125 x 153
Fokker 27 6 58 1336 x 210 x 190 228 x 175
Antonov AN-26 6.5 45 1110 x 220 x 160 230 x 171
Antonov AN-74 6.5 45 1000 x 215 x 220 226 x 220
British Aerospace ATP 8.2 78 1500 x 195 x 180 250 x 169
Boeing 737-200F 15 105 2100 x 310 x 220 340 x 215
Lockheed L-188 Electra 15 135 2000 x 280 x 220 355 x 203
Antonov AN-12 18 90 1380 x 300 x 250 300 x 250
Lockheed L-100 Hercules 21 140 1707 x 302 x 274 302 x 274
Boeing 727-200F 23.5 144 2712 x 351 x 218 340 x 218
Boeing 757F 39 187 3327 x 353 x 218 340 x 218
Douglas DC8-54/55 41 180 3100 x 317 x 203 355 x 215
Airbus A300 B4F 43.5 280 3900 x 477 x 223 358 x 256
Ilyushin IL-76 45 180 1850 x 345 x 325 344 x 340
Douglas DC8-62 45 200 3400 x 317 x 203 355 x 215
Antonov AN-22 50 650 2640 x 430 x 430 430 x 430
Lockheed L10-11 Tristar 55 420 3300 x 360 x 274 431 x 284
Boeing 767-300F 60 454 3000 x 400 x 250 340 x 254
Douglas DC10-30 65 451 3725 x 356 x 234 350 x 260
McDonnell Douglas MD11 80 642 4800 x 350 x 245 355 x 259
Boeing 747-100F 96 724 4800 x 317 x 304 340 x 312
Boeing 747-200F 110 725 4900 x 317 x 304 340 x 312
Boeing 747-300/400F 120 764 5000 x 317 x 304 340 x 312
Antonov AN-124 120 800 3650 x 640 x 440 640 x 440
Antonov AN-225 250
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Herege Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 2009 at 11:06pm
Is not easy find all info that we need, like you point: 2), 4), and 5). But I think this can help many of us to setup some needed infor for our cargo aircrafts.
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Specifications (SHORTS 360-100)
  • Crew: Three (Two pilots plus one cabin crew)
  • Capacity: 36 passengers
  • Length: 70 ft 10 in (21.59 m)
  • Wingspan 22.78 m (74 ft 10 in)
  • Heigh: 4.95 m (16 ft 3 in)
  • Wing area: 42.1 m² (544 ft²)
  • Airfoil: NACA 63 series (modified)
  • Empty weight: 16,900 lb (6,440 kg)
  • Max takeoff weight: 26,000 lb (10,387 kg)

Performance

  • Maximum speed: 352 km/h (190 kn, 218 mph) (at 3,050 m (10,000 ft))
  • Cruise speed: 296 km/h (160 kn, 184 mph)
  • Stall speed: 136 km/h (73 kn, 85 mph) (flaps and landing gear down)
  • Range: 1,239 km (915 NM, 770 mi) (no reserves, passenger version, 1,966 kg payload)
  • Service ceiling: 3,500 m (11,500 ft)
  • Rate of climb: 60 m/s (2,100 ft/min)
  • Wing loading: 247 kg/m² (50.6 lb/ft²)
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CURTISS C-46 COMMANDO:
   _____________________   _________________   
   spec                         english
 
   empty weight                 29,300 pounds
   max loaded weight         50,000 pounds

   max speed at altitude     235 MPH / 205 KT
   service ceiling                 22,000 feet
   range                               1,800 MI / 1,565 NMI
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DHC-2 Beaver
 
Performance:
Maximum Speed:
135 mph
217 km/h
Cruising Speed:
115 mph
185 km/h
Landing Speed:
52 mph
84 km/h
Range:
800 miles
1288 km
Max Climb:
950 ft/min
290 m/min
Max Altitude:
15,000 ft
4,572 m
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BradS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2009 at 2:31am
Originally posted by Herege Herege wrote:

Is not easy find all info that we need, like you point: 2), 4), and 5). But I think this can help many of us to setup some needed infor for our cargo aircrafts.

Yep, I agree those are more difficult to locate, but is probably part of the documentation provided when the <FS9/FSX> aircraft is purchased.  I  had to google around a bit to find the info on the Twotter and the Pilatus PC-12; there was lots of info about them....just not what I was looking for.  AH needs those pieces of performance data to function accurately.  In some cases, it may provide default info but the accuracy needs to be verified.  In my case for the Twotter, it wasn't even close.
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Great new page!  It will help me a lot.
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One of the most difficult stats to find published is fuel consumption.  If fuel capacity and range are published, you can approximate it from that, though there's no telling what criteria was used to establish the  published AC range.  It's usually done by testing with full tanks, but an empty aircraft, not exactly a good parallel for a cargo flight. Also, test pilots establish AC range by flying at the most economical power settings and altitudes which may not be how you operate your AC in AH.

Finally, there are different variants of AC in the real world and in the sim and there are different versions of the same AC by different developers, which may very well behave differently.

There is no better way to derive the fuel consumption of your AH aircraft than to fly it in the sim and measure it.

Load the plane to MTOW with fuel and payload and fly it at a height, configuration and power setting that is typical of how YOU prefer to fly the airplane.

Once level and stabilized in cruise, watch for the panel clock second hand to come to the top.  Open the Fuel & Payload menu and note the fuel quantity.  Return to the cockpit and continue.  Exactly 10 minutes later, open the F & P menu again and note the amount of fuel.  Subtract the two readings and multiply by six.  That's your fuel consumption per hour.

Note that AH only uses the fuel consumption value you enter in Aircraft Details for a few things and if you're within 10% it will likely not cause any noticeable problems.  However, having an accurate value for fuel flow is very valuable for flight planning, particularly in determining if you'll need an enroute fuel stop for a certain job or for figuring out how much cargo you can carry after the fuel is loaded (or vice versa).

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Aviation Traders Carvair
 
Performance

Maximum speed: 250 mph (400 km/h)

Range: 2,300 miles (3,700 km)

Service ceiling: 18,700 ft (5,700 m)

Rate of climb: 650 ft/min (3.3 m/s)

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Here is a listing of G/A aircraft with range and fuel consumption listed in gal/hr.


http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/aircraft/specifications.html
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A more detailed info & specifications concerning all DHC aircraft !! Tongue

http://www.xdh.ca/DHC_Aircraft/dhc_aircraft.html



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Any one have performance information for the Cessna Caravan?  I coulden't see it on this page.
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Specifications (DC-3)
 
Highly modified DC-3, a BT-67 powered by two Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6-65AR engines, now operated by the

National Test Pilot School 
Sun-n-Fun 2003, Lakeland, Florida, United StatesGeneral characteristics

Crew: 2
Capacity: 21-32 passengers
Length: 64 ft 5 in (19.7 m)
Wingspan: 95 ft 0 in (29.0 m)
Height: 16 ft 11 in (5.16 m)
Wing area: 987 ft² (91.7 m²)
Empty weight: 18,300 lb (8,300 kg)
Loaded weight: 25,200 lb (25,346 with deicing boots, 26,900 in some freight versions) (11,400 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Wright R-1820 Cyclone 9 series (earliest aircraft) or Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp S1C3G in the C-47

and later civilian aircraft, 1,100 or 1,200 hp (890 kW) max rating, depending upon engine and model (895 kW) each
Propellers: 3-bladed Hamilton Standard 23E50 series hydraulically controlled constant speed, feathering


Performance

Maximum speed: 237 mph (206 knots, 381 km/h (=Never Exceed Speed (VNE), or Redline speed))
Cruise speed: 150 mph (130 knots, 240 km/h)
Range: 1,025 mi (890 nm, 1,650 km)
Service ceiling: 24,000 ft (7,300 m)
Rate of climb: 1,130 ft/min (5.73 m/s) initial
Wing loading: 25.5 lb/ft² (125 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.0952 hp/lb (157 W/kg)

Using John's formula, ie Fuel consumption over 10 minutes @10,000' x 10 = 70 Gals per Hr.(Approx!)
 
VFE 97 Knots, as per placard speed in cockpit of sim DC3.
VLE Unable to ascertain but would approximate VFE +10, since the gear is built like it means buisiness!!
If it could survive WW2, Korea and the Berlin Air Lift ......................!!!

 


Delivering your cargo-Right on the money!
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Quote Using John's formula, ie Fuel consumption over 10 minutes @10,000' x 10 = 70 Gals per Hr.(Approx!)

It should be 10 minutes fuel burn X 6, not X 10. 

John

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 5:07pm
Hi John here are the accurate figures;-
 
DC3 in FSX;-
Wind Calm
@29.92
Alt 10,000'
2,500 RPM (both props)
40" Manifold pressure
22% Fuel mixture
138 Knots IAS
FUEL USED 22 Gallons  in 10 minutes so 22 x 6 = 132 Gallons per hour.
 
Lovely aircraft!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote allardjd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 6:22pm
David,
 
That looks about right.  Good data.  By the way, however, wind speed has no effect on fuel per unit of time.  If you're looking at distance per unit of time it becomes very significant.
 
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Originally posted by Hank Hank wrote:

A more detailed info & specifications concerning all DHC aircraft !! Tongue

http://www.xdh.ca/DHC_Aircraft/dhc_aircraft.html



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Thanks Hank.
 
As my early fleet will be based around DHC aircraft, this is a great link!
 
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Boeing 247 - Great starter plane
 
Cost new                1,256,000
Lease Cost              157,000
MTOW                     13650
Empty Weight          8785
Cargo Capacity        2878
Cruise Speed           165
Fuel Consumption    65
Range                      750
Vfe (Flaps)               160 (This plane has no flaps so I just set this to 160)
Vle (Gears)              160
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Cessna Caravan Cargomaster 

Performance:-

Cruise speed @10,000'  145 KIAS
Fuel Consumption (Gal/Hr)  55.6

This was gained by test flight, as suggested by John Allard.
IE. Timed for 10 minutes, then multiply sum by 6 for PPH. at:-

@10,000'
146 KIAS
1800 RPM (prop) (Adjusted down below red line)
716 Turbine Temp
7142 Ft/Lbs Torque. (Max throttle)
(375 PPH displayed on guage in cockpit, which is nearly as per test consumption in GPH!)Range  862 NM (1596KM)
VFE   125 KIAS ( As per maximum placard on ASI)
VLE   Fixed gear.

Additional specs:-

Service ceiling.  22,800'
Sea Level Rate of climb  925 FPM

Max Weight  Take Off  8750 Lbs
                        Landing 8500 Lbs
Fuel Capacity    336 Gallons 2249 Lbs.
 Useful Load with 170 KG pilot and pods filled to 1700 Lbs+ 2223 Lbs Fuel:-
4093 LBS

Wing Loading 31.3 Lbs/FT2
Power Loading  13 Lbs/HP
Engine PT6-114A
675 SHP

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