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In Kontrol
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Young people tune these so-called 'lawnmower' engines, and if done right it can prove to be quite powerful. Combine the fact that a well placed tree can split one in half, deadly but effective.
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twright
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Sorry Martin, didn't mean to hyjack your topic!
Yes Corsas and Fiestas are definitely the two most popular. They're not that fast, but you only have to look at the way they're driven to find out why insurance is so expensive!! My cousin paid about £1700 for his first year (two years ago). He had a 12 year old Nissan Micra!
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VulcanB2
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He was royally done! The car can't have been worth that!! Best regards, Vulcan. |
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MartinW
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As I said above to Magic Dambuster [and thanks for handing my thread back to me ] nothing, I drive my wifes car.
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MartinW
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Don't go for Fiestas/Corsas - they're "boy racer" cars. They may be cheap cars but very expensive to insure.
Vulcan's at it again!
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Mrbobo
Chief Pilot Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Location: London Points: 3165 |
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Wrong.....you can get a 1.8 SRi which is Rapid
As insurance goes I paid £2500 for my first year! I have about a month left till I have to renew so my first quota was £1300ish which is getting better!
The Fact is that young male drivers cause alot of accidents and thats why the insurance will always be high, no matter what car you get!
I bought a 2004 3 door 1.2 SXi 16v Corsa for my first car! I paid £3800 and he had done 48,000 miles! Had warranty tho.
My mate got a 1.0 3 door 2003 Corsa for £3000 with 33,000 mile on the clock!
I have had no problem with my corsa and love it! Its a great little run about car and thats all you need at 17/18!
Heres my beast!
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MartinW
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Right that's illegal for a start you young thug, it has no number plate.
I'm sending Ross round to arrest you.
Always knew kids were trouble.
In case anyone's still interested in my topic, now mutated into a different form by teenage hooligans... my cars now gone. And I admit it was an emotional moment.
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Mrbobo
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How much you get for it?
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MartinW
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It's a secret!
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Dambuster
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Mrbobo, sorry that's still a small engine...
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In Kontrol
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Dambuster are you smoking pot you stupid fool? What size engine do YOU expect a young person to have?
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Dambuster
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I'd call a 2.0, 200 bhp engine, powerful enough... that's what I have under the hood by the way. More power you have, the better off you are.
Thanks for the insult. |
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In Kontrol
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You don't understand. You really think young drivers (17-20) are going to be able to afford to run 2 litre engined cars? I think not, hence why they have 'lawnmower engined' cars.
And you're not necessarily better off with a bigger engine either, bigger engines tend use more fuel. Yes they may be faster but you'll be filling up more often!
My engine's 1.2 or 1.4 (not sure) but it certainly isn't slow, still, if all you're using it for is to go from A to B like moi then small can be beneficial.
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767nutter
Chief Pilot Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Location: Norfolk, UK Points: 1330 |
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Twright, the maximum size engine you would want as a first car is no higher than a 1.4.
Also i do not know who you have been trying to get insurance from but when i got my 25 1.4 it only cost me £600 and that was fully comp too.
Young people tune these so-called 'lawnmower' engines, and if done right it can prove to be quite powerful.
You can never tune an engine below a 1.4 in the ''right'' way. For starters when the car rolled out of the factory the car was designed for that engine and the engine was designed to go a certain speed. This equals to the fact that if you tune a engine it can be powerful, but not for long, it will wear the engine out much quicker. Other things you might have to replace if you tune up a engine may be; air filter, exhaust, suspension, throttle body, etc etc, its very expensive to do. You will be better off buying a car with a bigger engine after forking out all the dosh
And you're not necessarily better off with a bigger engine either, bigger engines tend use more fuel. Yes they may be faster but you'll be filling up more often!
Not with the new Jag XF your not, it's new 3litre diesel engine can get nearly 50mpg. My 1.4 averages about 42mpg. But yes in most cases bigger engines uses more fuel. |
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MartinW
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I'd call a 2.0, 200 bhp engine, powerful enough... that's what I have under the hood by the way. More power you have, the better off you are. Dambuster... you are a boy racer hooligan. You can never tune an engine below a 1.4 in the ''right'' way. For starters when the car rolled out of the factory the car was designed for that engine and the engine was designed to go a certain speed. This equals to the fact that if you tune a engine it can be powerful, but not for long, it will wear the engine out much quicker I assure you that you can! Yes, engine wear will be greater 'if you drive it to the max' but you can of course drive sensibly and have the extra performance in reserve. There are plenty of highly tuned, small engine, cars still on the road after many years. As for the air filter, it may have to be the fuel injection that was modified as well as the [cheap] filter, and perhaps the engine management system 'chipped' in addition and maybe exhaust modifications. Cars breath, a free flow exhaust manifold helps, more air in more gasses out. Brakes and suspension may also be required depending on the state of the components already fitted. Modern cars tend to have very good brakes, and suspension is better than it was also, so for a mild tune they may be sufficient. Extreme tuning is a different proposition. Then you can go bonkers with high lift cam shafts and polishing and porting heads etc. And bigger pistons.
Sometimes with modern cars just chipping the engine management system can give a handy boost.
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Magic Man
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2.2 litres or beastiness here...! And she is a real beast. Like Dambuster, we smile as we cruise along and pass little whimpy engines screaming at high revs just to move... |
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Mrbobo
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I'm sure my little corsa could still beat most 2 litre cars! Its about the driver not the car!
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Dambuster
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Well my insurance is no where near what you guys have for your 'economical' corsas and fiestas... those numbers seem very very expensive indeed. Well of course, we don't live in the same country so one can't really compare.
Yeah Magic, I know how you feel, people hate me (does car hating ring a bell? ) for driving a car, it's like I'm a criminal, a murderer... |
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MartinW
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2.2 litres or beastiness here...! And she is a real beast. Like Dambuster, we smile as we cruise along and pass little whimpy engines screaming at high revs just to move... Forgive me magic magic man, but aren't you the individual that proclaims to be a law abiding motorist and never brakes the speed limit?If so, and given that very few people drive slower that the speed limit, how do you actually achieve that pray tell?
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dodgy-alan
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Do yourself a favour bud, Buy yourself a Skoda Felicia or Fabia, both excellent reliable cars. if you want more info check (or czech) out the club website, www.southcoastskoda.com.
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The light at the end of the tunnel is a freight train coming the other way !
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