A few film tips for you all.

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You guys who belive the official story and the NIST report.
9/11 was the largest crime in US history right? Why was ALL of the evidence shipped of to China and NO forensic investigation allowed. No one was allowed on the scene to investigate and secure evidence, not one institution. Why?
It was so feeble that it makes the JFK case look professional!

(Yes I am one of those nuts as well, I dont belive Oswald was the lone gunman or even pulled the trigger at all)

Minimal fires from jet fuel you say!

I have already countered the official accounts in leymen terms, since none of us are structual engineers. I have seen the proof that engineers who support the government have put forth be shredded several times by indipendant engineers who dont play ball with the government. And having read a lot of history and knowing what governments do and what they are capable of i belive NOTHING thay say on any matter at all. Hence i chose to trust the latter engineers. They dont work for a lying murdering government.

Yeah Ive seen his debunking vids before, nice try but none of them prove anything. The sound of a skysrubbisher falling will make a lot of noise for more than 9 seconds. And freefall can be more than 9 seconds in any case. The point is that if they came down by structural failure they would come down in a completly differnt fashion than they do on the footage, they would top over and fall outward not down in their own foot print and there would be lots of structure still standing after the collapse. Also there would not be debrie weign hundreds of tons thrown several blocks away loged in other buildings.

You really have a thing for Icke.
I dont care if he wares ladies underware or eats children.
He did not start the 9/11 truth movement and certianly did not discover and reveal the global elite and their agenda. I just think its great that he has moved on from being jesus and writing about reptiles to more serious issues.

Well since you guys dont seem to want to see the differnce between shapeshifting reptiles and faked moonlandings,  and government corruption I am not surprised either.
The bbc "error" was so obvious that there is no way it was an error, someone leaked the pre written press release a little to early. im pretty sure someone would have pointed the building out to them. Cnn and other american news agencies made the same "rror" as well.

Well you certainly haven´t studied the events if all you could find were claims of smoke puffs billowing out during the collapse.
Why was the evidence removed from the crime scene without any scrutiny and investigation? Why was NORAD placed under the vice presidents personal comand a month before the attacks wich has never happened before in history.
And not a single missle fired when the nation was clearly under attack wich would by regulation since the 50´s be standard proceure.
Why were known Islamic radicals trained at US institutions?
And how did they manuver passanger aircraft in ways that even professional pilots say is more or less impossible.
What are the odds that exercises with the exact locations and time and scenario would be carried out both in NYC and london!?

I mean come on how much proof do you need to at least put in to question the official report, that official story about fanatics in caves IS a CT if anything. They wouldnt have the balls or the knohow to pull this off!

kamakazi wrote: I have already countered the official accounts in leymen terms, since none of us are structual engineers.

No not at all, since you are obviously not reading what I am posting im not going to bother re-writing tha facts that are as plain as day and do not require a degree in stryctual engineering. My laymen terms are real and fact.

No they came down just as they would through explosives and thermite  not the buckled floor CT invented by NIST. However not in exactly 9 seconds like some claim.

20 years ago passager planes were remotley controlled for hours and hours including multiple landings and take offs. But for the record, I doubt that any of the planes were remote controlled, I havent seen any evidence for or against it. It is technically possible though, that much I know.

Its funny how it always goes to 9/11 in any discussion.
9/11 is just a tiny tip of the iceberg.
There are so many government staged terrorism events that
were CT´s just 10-20 years ago, but today are mainstream facts.

Governments have killed 200 million people in the last 100 years.
All I am saying is that if you have a single shred of historic knowlage
you should never trust any government and question everything they say.
It is extremely naive to belive that people in positions of power like our "leaders"
are angels and not corrupt. Of course they will murder for personal gain, be it power or
profit.
It doesn´t matter if you belive the official 9/11 fable or doubt it. The fact is that there is a global banking crime syndicate who own the central banks and they are complete control freaks and together with their minions who own global industry are racing forward with an agenda to create a world government. its not a theory its fact cause they admit it and its been proven time an time again through history. They sponsor both sides of every war. The US federal reserve is private and lends money to the fed with interest paid for by the american people. You honestly think that this global economic crises is by accident? its staged to force countries in to a global cashless society, with a global economis system controlled by the same banking elite. Problem/reaction/solution. its so simple and genious that its mins boggling that people dont see right through it.

The thing is you guys will not even belive it when it hits you with full force. It´s happening right now, but this is just the bare beginning. I really dont want to be the one to say, I told you so

Martyn YOU please please please wake up and do some research cause you have clearly NO clue about what you are writing on this partucular subject. You have not looked at the evidence. You are not stupid so if you HAD studied the evidence you would never be calling me idiotic and mentaly ill.
No one with a normal IQ can look at the evidence and NOT question the official fable.
I am extremly worried over people trusting the globalists and actually buying in to their scams and refusing to open their eyes.

Here is a great CT for you. The Isralie army attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 for no reason at all. However the orders came from washington and the president himself. The Isralie pilots refused to attack but after being threatened with courtmartial went on. The nearby US fleet launched planes to fight off the attack but the planes were called back by the president with the words "I want that god damned ship to go to the bottom, recall the wings".

5 years ago CT, now mainstream fact.

Wow that Maddox guy certainly hasen´t even thought about anything else than the official fable. I would ike to se a cartoon about Larry Silverstein and how he admits to building 7 being demolished by control demolition, like he did on CNN, and how such a demolishion takes about three weeks to prepare.

Well read the interviews with the captain of the USS Liberty and the people who were on the line and heard the presidents exact words.

Sure I would, but no matter what source I give or what evidence I present you will never accept it. I could say that the holocost never happened and that it was staged and being politically correct you would lose your mind. I would ask for indipendant sources. then just deny everthing.
There is no way to get around a persons ego when it is in question. So I see no point in even trying.

99,9% listen to the mainstrem corporate controlled media so of course. bu the ones who look at the tangible evidence question the official fable immediately. in any case the majority of americans question the 9/11 fable according to several polls, and even more outside of the US. The majority of the families of the 9/11 victims agree that the official story is not true.

Ok so the people who question the official fable are mad hatters...on what grounds? Because they dont agree with the official NIST report.

I would love to have answers to why no missle was fired at any plane when the nation was clearly under attack, I would love to know why satellite images show extreme heat sources three weeks after the attacks at ground zero when jetfuel was the cause. Or why all the physical evidence was shipped away without any investigation.
If I could have one question answered, it would be how at both 9/11 and 7/7 there could be exercises with the exact same buildings and scenarios as the real even at the exact same time, eventhough the odds of this happening is 1 in a billion according to computer software used by incurance companies.

I have dozens of more questions that no one has answerd yet.

Sometimes sure, but if I am wrong I admit it.
But all governments are liars and murderes and if you deny that
you really need to brush up on your history. Like I said earlier RAS,
the number one cause from unnatural death is by government.
200000000+ since 1900. So pretty much any story fits it self!