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aniceguy 
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 Topic: Fumes in the cockpit ...Posted: 21 Apr 2008 at 8:18pm |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7353125.stm
Bit disturbing to know this.
I've heard over the radio at Manchester planes coming into land with smells of such then latter. Seems to be more frequent than you would have thought so as well.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2008 at 9:15pm |
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Was just on panorama!
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aniceguy
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Posted: 21 Apr 2008 at 9:18pm |
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I'll have to watch it on net when it's available as studying comes fiurst atm :(
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 4:22pm |
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flybe embraer 145 landed at gatwick today (declared emergency) with the Crew reporting 'air contamination' and were clearly speaking through an
oxygen mask. |
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 4:23pm |
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Finally - a big aviation secret is finally being acknowledged...
Best regards, Vulcan. |
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Martyn
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 4:37pm |
I don't think there are such things as 'secrets' in modern aviation. Fumes have been discussed for a long time, its just the media has decided to get on board and dramatise the whole situation. Surprise, surprise! |
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 4:38pm |
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I'm not surprised. Whos at fault though? Is it the manufacturers? i.e. Airbus / Boeing.
I know the recent boeing model does not intake air from the engines due to the law that they had to follow.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 8:57pm |
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I recorded this programme but haven't watched it yet. What fumes are they?
My flying instructor was telling me the other day that about a few months ago he was flying in one of the club's PA28s with two other people and half way through the trip the guy sat in the back said that he was starting to feel drousy and sick. They landed and he felt a bit better so they decided to take off again, this time with the other guy sat in the back and the guy that felt unwell before sat in the front. A short while after takeoff, the guy now sat in the back also started to feel sick, so again, they landed and decided to finish the flying for the day. The aircraft underwent an inspection and it was discovered that a fault was found on the cabin heating system and small amounts of carbon monoxide from the exhaust was being blown into the cabin through the air vents. Potentially very dangerous!
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 9:49pm |
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I've had smoke/fumes in the cockpit a couple of times. In a light single it can be a non event - landing asap (it often occurs immediately on departure), and generally there's an immediate source of ventilation availble. Installing a £5 CO detector can save you life too - this happened across the RAF's Tutor fleet after a Piper crashed after both occupants were incapacitated after CO poisoning.
Bigger aircraft are more of a pain, Sources can range from the conditioning and pressurisation systems (and often hence the engines), to faults in the avionics bay - which of course is generally underneath the cockpit. Often you are much more limited in what you can do about it too (for example, in the middle of the atlantic). In any event, any form of fumes are not pleasant, and not conducive to a good situation. |
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 9:54pm |
I disagree. Like the risks of high altitude flying are buried and anyone caught trying to measure exposure to UV radiation has great potential to lose their jobs, so this too was buried in a similar fashion. 'nuff said. Best regards, Vulcan. |
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 10:08pm |
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"Secrets in modern aviation" Pah, if only you knew!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 10:11pm |
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I think it very much depends on what your definition of secret is. Mine is obviously very different to yours
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Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 10:14pm |
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If i tell you , i will have to kill you!!!
Your a little touchy lately Martyn, you ok?
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Posted: 23 Apr 2008 at 7:03am |
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Full scale airport shutdown last night for 20mins at stansted for a 146 SAS aircraft that was forced to make a emergency landing. And i have to agree with ross a tiny bit martyn as after 8 years at working at various airports i have seen some shocking things occur!
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