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    Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 8:48pm
Is there anyone else that has gotten almost flipped over in 2-3 knot winds?  The plane seems EXTREMELY sensitive to wind. I had absolutely the hardest time trimming it out and going hands free with this plane. It's an absolute work of art, but I wonder if the flight model needs some adjusting...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Delta558 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 2018 at 10:06pm
Thanks for the vid - have a look at this thread:
http://forum.justflight.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=31751&KW=weather&title=hunter-instability-question

The whole thread is worth a read, but particularly my response in the sixth post should answer your question. The problem is Flightsim's depiction of the weather, not the aircraft!

Also, you mention that it would be trimmed out but the predominant motion is in the rolling axis and the C152 does not have aileron trim (away from all my manuals at the moment so it's a 99% certainty on my partWink) so there is no way of trimming anything out. If you follow the instructions in the linked thread you should find that rocking becomes a much more gentle and believable feeling of being airborne. 

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Correct, In that particular instance trimming out wouldn't affect the roll, the problem was for the duration of the flight I barely got a few seconds here and there of hands off the yoke time. Where trimming an aircraft gives you that ability to not nosedive, when there is a constant roll trimming it out just does nothing to help. 

I love the feel of it on approach, its absolutely incredible and feels pretty dang real (from experience). But at cruise, to not get any hands free time makes me think perhaps the effect of weather on THIS particular aircraft is a bit aggressive. Hundreds of other planes in my hangar don't have that feel at cruise.

This plane is a work of art Paul, and if you're behind it, KUDOS!

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Try setting your turbulence and wind effects to about 15% - you can do it via the fsx/p3d.cfg file as referenced by Snave (thanks!) in that thread. That should give you an idea of how it was designed to fly in the sim.

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I use Active Sky, think that 15% should carry over the same?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Delta558 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2018 at 8:37am
Yes, definitely. I use active sky myself and have set the scale for wind and turbulence in the menu there.
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Copy that, will try it out and spread the word. And to be absolutely sure, this is the "Turbulence Effect Scale" slider?
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Also, would it be handy to have a passenger ?

I need to use a fake aileron trim to keep it level in still air. Tiring !

Not necessarily a bad thing - just artistic license.... ?
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