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kevinh
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Well if so it’s about time. TFR was heavily trailed in the GR1 pre release hype. Successive SP’s failed to address it. All this time later it still doesn’t work, any more than RA hold works. I wonder if they’ll fix the nose down attitude problem flying at low level in autopilot compared to manual flight. The last problem leads me to suspect there is something fundamentally wrong with the flight model. |
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Delta558
First Officer Just Flight FDE Developer Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Points: 383 |
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Well, as that hasn't (to the best of my knowledge) been reported, it certainly hasn't made its way back to me, perhaps it is something that can be looked at. Regarding your comment about something being fundamentally wrong, please remember that this simulator only allows for one wing shape. That is defined within the fde, it is specific and does not allow for alteration of wing shape at all. The Tornado effectively has 4 wing positions, so 4 different wing shapes. The following is from memory, so may not be exact but is not far off: With the Tornado, there is a defined change of attitude based on wing sweep angle (because the CoL shifts rearwards) as well as speed. I think that attitude is 3 degrees for each main sweep movement - fore to mid, mid to aft. That balances itself as the speed alters, so you have two items affecting the pitch of the aircraft, rather than the more usual one (speed) which the sim is set up for. The change of pitch with wing sweep has been created within the fde, and as an initial thought I would suggest that maybe the AP is bypassing that. Something to look at, certainly, but when you create things the sim wasn't intended to account for there is always the risk of finding an unwanted side-effect. Paul. |
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kevinh
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Hi Paul,
I have reported it and supplied screenshots to show the problem. When flying manually pitch attitude is normal. If you engage autopilot in RA or TFR mode, pitch attitude is several degrees nose down in comparison. I understand the problem you have with variable sweep, but for the same weight and speed, pitch attitude in level flight should be the same whether AP is engaged or not. This is in addition to the pitch oscillations that occur in these modes but which don't affect vertical flight path. The GR1 pitch oscillates but VS is zero and altitude is rock solid. I don't know what is going on, but it doesn't feel right. Cheers, Kevin |
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Herky
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Yay! Looking forward to it. Fix the navigation systems, specifically waypoints displaying or not displaying correctly and the rear seat displays. The Terrain Following would be nice. If you can do something similar to SSW Terrain Following that would be super. Although I know they use their own terrain maps and that's keyed in to their simulation. Seemingly the P3d/Orbx terrain read straight from the simulator, is a bit difficult to program in. In my opinion, the VRS Superbug reigns supreme in the P3d combat jet league(Tacpack). Then I believe the Aerosoft F14 would be up there, but I haven't bought it (Yet!). Definitely on the list. I do have the SWS F-4. I am disappointed in that, mainly because its not compatible with P3d Simdirector, so I cant script any mission scenarios...Nothing to bomb you see? Their support is great, but not much I can do with it without Simdirector, but that's just me. Happy simming. Best regards David |
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Mr Paul Michael Rose
Check-In Staff Joined: 01 May 2013 Location: Kent UK Points: 11 |
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Hi Guys
Do we have any news on the Tonka GR-1 update. I have left it a few months but am really curious if its a dead issue now? |
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Craig.Haskell
Just Flight Staff Technical Support Joined: 08 Jun 2017 Location: Bournemouth Points: 22 |
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The F3 is still in development and as previousy stated by Rich, when the time comes the GR1 will have its overhaul at the same time. Be assured it has not been forgotten about. |
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Mr Paul Michael Rose
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Hi Guys
Possibly a silly question, any news on the Tornado update??? Is there any chance of it before or even for Xmas. I have jusat got Marham working perfectly and the working Tonka would be wonderful. Coningsby too for the F3. |
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Mr Paul Michael Rose
Check-In Staff Joined: 01 May 2013 Location: Kent UK Points: 11 |
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Hi Guys
I had a conversation with one of the JF guys at Cosford and he said if I do a full reinstall maybe that will work. I did and alas no change, when trying to access the flightplans from the rear seat it dies. I know this isn't an issue for everybody but if you guys need a beta bod to test different configs I am happy to be the guinea pig. Looking forward to the update but If I can be of any help I am happy to be. Paul |
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