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Originally posted by spooky spooky wrote:

+1?
I would like to hear from some one who owns it if they have managed to get past 9000 ft as i cant even reducing the load makes no difference


Here we go, just to prove it can be done - all the way up to 14,000 feet, and it probably would have gone maybe another thousand feet if I'd have managed it carefully. It's a bit tricky, don't expect to be up there in five minutes, but if you watch the video, you can see it does get there eventually climbing at about 97 knots or so with the mixture set right, props forward and the superchargers working to help:
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Hi Richard,

Just checked to be sure. It was 130 mph ( about 115 Knots on the inner scale ). I've got plenty of time off at the moment ( and soon to retire altogether !) so I'm going to plug away at it. It is a good model - that's the thing - it just doesn't seem to fly right.

I'm sure A.H. will get there. 
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Hi, Paul,

There is pdf manual on line a simple google will get you there cant do the link thing,

you mention 130mph, it says knots i think,as i see it there are 2 speed guages and on mine give to different readings. it took me nearly an hour or more to get to 090 with the stall warning going on and off.
I am stuck for time a the moment so cant test more at the moment, there are more issues though!.

I am still waiting for someone important!!!! to throw us a line on this one,also i would like one off the beta testers to show us where we are going wrong,

All the best,

Richard.
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Just been giving the C-46 another try - at a constant 54" MP, and varying the r.p.m and mixture as much as I dare, I can barely get 130 mph out of it, and that's trimmed for level flight. Any attempt to climb, no matter how gentle, sees the speed dropping to the point where I have to red-line the props again.

I'm going to persist with it over the coming days, read up a bit more on the realworld performance figures, and try various weights. However, at the moment it's not really usable, which is a shame considering how good the external and VC models are.
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@Snave I said requested refund not received. As of yet. I know all about the plane and also like any add on that approaches realism. I think the point you are missing is that broke is not real. I've seen you complain about enough that was not modeled or needed fixing. Why are you having a hard time accepting that some of us are having genuine issues. I respect your opinion try respecting ours and leave it at that.
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+1?

I have this aircraft ,I would like to hear from some one who owns it if they have managed to get past 9000 ft as i cant even reducing the load makes no difference,also the speed guages are in kph not mph ok that might be correct dont know! they both read differently!.
do we know whats modled as i see no  difference when using super chargers.
also the heading hold switch wont work inthe vc ,
a list of what works and what dosnt would be helpful.
at climb rate 2300 rpm and 35 man press it stalls ,

I realy woud be grateful if someone could advise me on some of these issues i seem to be having.

many thanks/

Richard.
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Points: 78 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Paul K Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 2017 at 9:29am
Mr. Evans - may I ask you if you own the A.H. C-46 with SP1 installed, and if so, are you stating categorically that the model's performance matches that of the real-world aircraft ? 

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Originally posted by Merlin59 Merlin59 wrote:

Good luck with it. I requested a refund. Not worth it!

Actually, as it gets closer to `real` it takes on a whole new interest for me - the aircraft was known  to be underpowered, even in the later versions and had poor altitude performance. It had no rudder control until about 50 knots, but would lift the tail at 40. It also would not accelerate until it was cleaned up so gear up, flaps up would need to be done while pretty much in level flight.

It was best known for the operation over the `Hump` of the Himalayas during WWII and it is hard to think of a less suitable aircraft for high-altitude operations. 
The aircraft was (over)built with the intention to be pressurized but it was never fitted so it was heavy, even before you added fuel and freight. It's climb rate was so poor that the aircraft almost doubled the journey distance because of the need to circle climb interminably to actually get over the mountains and at high altitude it was always close to `coffin corner`.

It's a brave choice to model the aircraft to a degree of accuracy, precisely because of these limitations. 

That's why I say it's not for everybody. It's metier was in `humpin stuff` short distances at low altitudes with low fuel loads, managing throttles very carefully. 

Your purchase choices and reasons are your own. But now you've got your refund I presume you will play no further part in this forum.
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Good luck with it. I requested a refund. Not worth it!
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It's not a matter of not being up to it. There is underpowered and there is broke. This is broke. Won't climb 100 fpm with nearly no fuel and zero cargo weight. No it's not a fighter jet as stated above. However with this performance it's a paperweight. If you don't have it you might not want to get involved. Trust me Snave it's broke still.
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The aircraft was renowned for being under-powered.

You got what you asked for.

Not sure why this is even a conversation starter at this point.

500 fpm with NO load was normal. 

What did you expect? And why?

This is what makes the aircraft a challenge. 
If you're not up to it, why did you buy into it in the first place?
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Hi gentlemen, bought the Commando at Cosford today ( nice to briefly meet you, Martyn ).

I too am having difficulty getting any performance out of her. I can barely climb and even then I have to thrash the engines to get to 120 mph.

Something else I noticed - the prop pitch lever positions don't match. For a given identical pitch as shown in the tool tips, one lever appears to be further back than the other. Minor gripe, but hopefully fixable.

Still exploring this model, which I must say looks terrific. Smile
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I Concur, can not get 1000 pounds off the ground, bigger rubber bands maybe? Anyhow rolled back to Sp1 and I can fly in AH2 again.
Great Airplane just a few kinks to work out.
Cheers
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I Concur, can not get 1000 pounds off the ground, bigger rubber bands maybe? Anyhow rolled back to Sp1 and I can fly in AH2 again.
Great Airplane just a few kinks to work out.
Cheers
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Same here, cannot even use METO to accelerate in level flight. Climbing out seems impossible. Have to use 50MP to get 500FPM climb ...
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Same here. Plane has no power. Succeed to make it worst after a sp Wink
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found the same. lost all power. can't fly it by the recommended power settings by the manual it stalls 
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Is it just me or did this thing lose all power or giddyup? I realize it's not the peppiest plane around but sheeesh...
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Sorry...fixed last update
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Same .net crash when exit the sim.
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