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Maybe you can help me here. When I engage the auto control the aircraft turns North. If I click on the auto control steering switch the aircraft turns onto some totally random heading.
What are you doing right, that I am doing wrong?
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Looked into JF, saw that the Lancaster had just been released and without hesitation bought it.

Just read the guidance notes, twice, and about to re-read them again before setting up the aeroplane with FSUIPC.

It looks like you get quite a bit here with engine management systems, maybe not as complex as A2A's B-17, plus also the ability to manage limited flight control from the bomb aimers' position.

Thankfully there is a primitive "George" as you can also flit between the navigator and wireless operators stations.

Once in autopliot you can also get to act as the front gunner.

This does like like it will be a joy to fly, despite not being Tac-Packed. 
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I believe it's nearing completion.

It was advertised recently, on a JF newsletter, showing some nice external shots. If it has Tacpack integration, I would have it on my wish list. If not, it's going to be missing the ability to do bombing missions using FSX@War, FSCAI etc. I realise Tacpack wouldn't replicate an Upkeep, but a few iron bombs would be nice?

It will be nice to fly one in the sim. I hope they modelled the engines at least?

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Hi,

Is there any news from the lancaster?

It has been a long time...

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Originally posted by DaveG DaveG wrote:

Yes, you could replace the actual Mk83 model with a Tallboy for example, so it would look right, but the drop and explosion characteristics would still be those of the Mk83. Of course, then any other aircraft that used the Mk83 would be dropping Tallboy lookalikes! LOL
Using Mk82/83 as standard WWII 500lb or 1000lb bombs would be OK if you didn't look too closely as they dropped.


OK, I think keeping the Mk 82's would be ok. I don't know if they dropped 12,000 Lb. worth of those, but the effect would be rather spectacular!

They dropped sticks of incendiaries (looked like modern small "practice" bombs) and a big "Cookie", which looked like a large barrel full of HE.

Like you say we are limited to what's in Tacpack but at least the Lanc could drop something!

So here's hoping that we can have a Lanc that works!

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Yes, you could replace the actual Mk83 model with a Tallboy for example, so it would look right, but the drop and explosion characteristics would still be those of the Mk83. Of course, then any other aircraft that used the Mk83 would be dropping Tallboy lookalikes! LOL
Using Mk82/83 as standard WWII 500lb or 1000lb bombs would be OK if you didn't look too closely as they dropped.
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Originally posted by DaveG DaveG wrote:

TacPacking the Lancaster would be relatively easy for simple freefall bombs (I've added it myself for the FCS model), but the fact is the ordinance carried by the Lancaster simply doesn't exist in TacPack, that would need to be added by VRS to the TacPack code. Without that you would end up dropping modern Mk-82 or similar weapons.


That's interesting! I knew you could put a gun on a Cessna with the Tacpack SDK. But there is little chance to put a TallBoy or an Upkeep in a Tacpack Lancaster. Unless you could amend the bomb weight somehow. But youd still see a Mk 83 drop!

I suppose the 12000 Lb load could be Mk 82/83, which are in Tacpack?

Perhaps?

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TacPacking the Lancaster would be relatively easy for simple freefall bombs (I've added it myself for the FCS model), but the fact is the ordinance carried by the Lancaster simply doesn't exist in TacPack, that would need to be added by VRS to the TacPack code. Without that you would end up dropping modern Mk-82 or similar weapons.
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Originally posted by petesmiffy petesmiffy wrote:

The medal ribbons on the aircraft refer to awards to the aircrew.

 
Only partially true. S-Sugar was decorated 3 times. See this from the RAF Museum history.

https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/documents/collections/74-A-12-Avro-Lancaster-R5868.pdf

"As ‘Sugar’s’ mission tally approached the 100 mark the press began to take an interest and ‘higher authority’ decided that the nude would have to go. In her place was inscribed Herman Goering’s vain boast ‘No enemy plane will fly over the Reich Territory’ applied by LAC Ted Willoughby, one of Sugars engine fitters in Feb 1944 assisted by F/Sgt Dan Smith. An arrow pointed to the growing number of bomb markings and the DSO ribbon ‘awarded’ after the first tour of 30 missions and a DSO after 60.Sugar was later awarded a bar to the DFC. These also reflected awards given to Sugars’ crew members."

As I understand it, this aircraft is the only one ever to be decorated by the RAF.




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Not sure how involved JF are in this Lancaster project but if they are the publisher perhaps they could intervene or persuade AH to think again. I see in the trailer that it does drop ordnance but I want to blow shit up which is what it was designed and built to do. The tech capability to do this has been around for years.
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Originally posted by Busterbvi Busterbvi wrote:


Its looking good but what a shame about Tacpack, I think a change of attitude is needed at Aeroplane Heaven. I'm also disappointed that the superb JF in house team did not do this. This most iconic plane deserves the very best standards of simulation modeling that the JF team consistently achieve.





Aeroplane Heaven wont get a sale out of me unless its weapon capable. After you have constructed missions in Tacpack/Sim director and FSCAI for AAA and Flak, just flying about from a to b is somewhat dull!

I was looking forward to using my "Dambusters" mission in a Lanc but this looks like its not going to happen.

Hopefully the Vulcan will get a Tacpack addition...But I aint holding my breath!
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The medal ribbons on the aircraft refer to awards to the aircrew.
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Its looking good but what a shame about Tacpack, I think a change of attitude is needed at Aeroplane Heaven. I'm also disappointed that the superb JF in house team did not do this. This most iconic plane deserves the very best standards of simulation modeling that the JF team consistently achieve.


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Originally posted by Uncle Bucc Uncle Bucc wrote:

You tube have a teaser trailer from Aeroplane Heaven. 
Hopefully they will have a decent camera view for the P8 compass.  Easy in the "Tiffy" but a bit awkward in the "Mossie" to get a decent bearing/reading. 




Aeroplane Heaven have stated that they do not intend to do a Tacpack compatible version.

Unless they do their own bomb release mechanism, this will be another flying museum aircraft, nice to fly about but with no weapons. I realise Tacpack and FSX@War/ P3d@War isn't for everyone, but creating missions that have a result is much more engrossing!

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You tube have a teaser trailer from Aeroplane Heaven. 
Hopefully they will have a decent camera view for the P8 compass.  Easy in the "Tiffy" but a bit awkward in the "Mossie" to get a decent bearing/reading. 


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Originally posted by bladerunner900 bladerunner900 wrote:


Hi guys.

Thanks for the heads-up Chris. I look forward to this release. Probably the last chance of a decent Avro Lancaster in my lifetime, since A2A seem to have lost the plot regarding  warbirds. Just my opinion of course. LOL

Steve.


I hope a Lanc will work with Tacpack. With a working bomb aimers position. That "halfpenny" bombsight they used in the Dambuster raid was just a couple of pegs on a Y shaped bracket...Shouldn't be hard to simulate that? However a bouncing bomb (Upkeep) will be a problem? The main focus, I surmise, should be on the engine simulation. Four Merlin's to work with.

A2A seem to be very slow to release 64 bit versions of their sims. A few have tried to stimulate interest in a Lancaster A2A, but seems like they aren't interested!

We need a dev who has a passion for the Lancaster, otherwise it will never be made, or worse still they will just make a museum version that just flies about at air shows and doesn't drop any bombs!

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Hi guys.

Thanks for the heads-up Chris. I look forward to this release. Probably the last chance of a decent Avro Lancaster in my lifetime, since A2A seem to have lost the plot regarding  warbirds. Just my opinion of course. LOL

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Originally posted by petesmiffy petesmiffy wrote:

Some good "front office" pictures on Aeroplane Heaven's FaceBook page.


It will no doubt be very welcome in P3dv4. No Oom's to worry about! But without Tacpack compatibility, its a military sim without vital functions!
All military sims in Prepared should have the Tacpack compatibility. It would enhance the simulation and no doubt increase sales!

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Some good "front office" pictures on Aeroplane Heaven's FaceBook page.
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Hi Simon.

The bomb aimer view must be a "view", which should be in your .cfg file. I have forgotten where that is in fs9 (its a long time ago!). But if you open the aircraft.cfg file in notepad, scroll down, there should be a couple of entries. If not then something's wrong?

My thought were to do the "Dambusters recreated" movie using the 617 Tornado. Since the JF 64 bit Tonka is hangared due to maintenance..!
   I decided to explore the VRS Superbug. Glad I did! What a simulation!

Of course I would have preferred a fully working Lanc. But the way things are with devs these days, I will be waiting a long time I think!

The only other WW2 Bomber with credentials for being a simulation, is the A2A B17. Again here we see reluctance on the part of A2A to "convert" it to 64 bit?

So after I discovered how deep a simulation the VRS Superbug is with Tacpack, I don't think I can go back to non armed warplanes in P3d?

The Tacpack SDK is available to all. Some guys have even put a Vulcan onto a Cessna. I am sure it wouldn't take much for a dev to put weapons onto a Tornado or Canberra or a new version of a Lancaster? If there is a will?

Unfortunately, we seem to be in a minority. We are a niche within a niche hobby and arnt seen as a commercial proposition!

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