Improved flight dynamics for bae hawk.

Hey guys i Just wanted to help out just flight with there new Bae hawk with the flight problem. I have been doing some editing on the plane with the pitch sensitivity ect.   If you guys would like a better stable flying plane  until JF releases and update you can download my current fix.  Also make sure to use your trim on take off and in flight.    Please leave feedback.

It does reduce the pitch sensitivity at rotation, but you've done some other things which I'm not sure about. Idle N2 now seems far too low. As a result Hyd 2 won't come on line unless you increase RPM to the original idle N2 of around 55%. On the other hand EGT looks much more realistic.

Just to give you an update on where we are at with the fde, I've put out a new set of files to the test team this evening having done a lot of re-writing over the weekend. Pitch is now much more under control, engine temps are on the mark both during startup and with regard to the over-temp warning light activation.  The CG shouldn't need to be changed - it's accurately set at frame 21 (from memory) which is quite far aft but if you move it forwards you risk other areas of the flight envelope. I understand it as a quick fix so you can enjoy the systems etc but long-term it is not the solution! Quite a few other minor fixes have been done, it's not going to be an immediate fix from us - the files will need to be tested before they get to you! Hopefully not too long, though.

Cheers,
Paul.

kevinh

I have to start my default aircraft in P3d v3.5 1st, before changing to the Hawk to be able to start the engine, after that the flight is a devil of a job to maintain straight and level flight. Just Flight will get there eventually and hopefully sooner than later and then this will be good aircraft for my hanger

Thank you Phillip But where are the file you are talking about for the Hawk
Regards

Hi Rob
JF will have to get the flight dynamics sorted on this one other wise people will not trust them again for a long time. It would have been better if they had delayed the Hawk for a few months because the Beta tester/s Would or Should in my mind have picked this problem up in the First Moments of trying to fly the Hawk and this I think is where the problem lies.
Regards

Documentation wise the manual was missing some important info for me.
Some controls/switches in the VC did not have tooltips to identify them, doubly difficult when they are not in the manual either!
Flight wise on the ground its controllable, in the air was not. After a couple of minutes i was having to apply full forward stick just to remain level, no amount of trim control fixed this. Stall conditions could hardly be recovered from, all attempts to nose down to gain airspeed were violently resisted!
Model is excellent and I hope the flight model gets properly fixed, because if not I'll be asking fir a refund as this a/c is not flyable IMHO. Ive also watched RL clips of hawk flights and I'd echo previous comments that they seem massively more stable...

JF if you need additional testers please contact me, i'd like this to be a success... :)

I finally managed to fly the Hawk for the first time last night as for some reason my realism setting had been returned to EASY!!!! What the!! Anyway I now have my normal settings and full aileron control which is what I'd been missing. She's a handful alright and certainly requires the gentle touch but for my first flight I found the flight dynamics to be OK although took some time to get used too. As with the Tornado GR-1 this bird takes some flying and understanding but its definitely not for the jump in a fly simmers. Glad I've stuck with this one again as its turned out to be, for me anyway, a great product from Just Flight.