Tornado GR1 framerate issue

Busterbvi wrote: Let me put things into perspective with regards to frame rates, My Father is a retired Optician and keen simer and I can tell you that 30 fps is as fast as the human eye can see. Pre digital movies were shot at 27 fps.  Higher frame rates are only used as a measure of performance.  Do yourselves a favour and Lock your Frame rate at 30 to free up your CPU to handle other tasks more efficiently. I have not got the GR1 yet but will do once this issue is sorted. Buster.

I think my post was misunderstood, of course the human eye can physically see frame rates over 30, the point I was trying to make is if you put two monitors side by side , one running FSX at 30 and the other at 60fps I defy you to see any difference.  Mine is locked at 30 and I can fly the CS 737NGX into Heathrow Extreme and it is fluid (I use Kostas tweaks) on a stock 4770k and a old GTX580.  If you want to waste your hard earned on fancy hardware for a few more fps than 30 then go ahead, Nvidia, AMD & Intel  are laughing all the way to the bank.

Hi all,

With SP1, I have 22fps in UK with Orbx, custom Marham scenery and lots of AI traffic. Full model with smoke effects, only backseat panels disabled - P3D v2.5.

Same setup in FSX-Steam gives 24.5 in DirectX9.0C, possibly due to lack of cockpit self-shading

Had the rocking wing effect, traced it to adverse reaction to moderate turbulence. Had this before with other models. Turbulence off and the aircraft flies normally.

Blaunarwal, I was waiting for a response on my ticket asking for a full refund. No responce... So I decided to file a complaint through paypal. Within twenty minutes JF responded a I was given my refund. For sure, I wished this product performed well, but I just got fed up with all the waiting and failing service packages. No GR1 for me...

I know the freeware UKMIL version. But thats nowhere near to serious Sim. I'm now flying the GR4 by Iris. Used to be payware, and is sort of acceptable. Maybe, JF will have a Tonka flying this X-mas. If reviews are good by the beginning of 2016, I might still buy it. In the meantime I'm enjoying flying the Buccaneer by Flyingstations.

Thanks for the post Paul. Glad your shaving success with this Gr1

Rich wrote: Hi all, Work is continuing on another update for the Tornado. The approach will be two-fold: removing as much fat from the model as possible, and looking into compiling techniques to reduce the size of the MDL.  I can't give a release date for this, as things rarely ever plan out exactly the way you envision them and all that happens is people get frustrated if this estimated date isn't achieved.

Rich, it's nice your communicating but your not saying anything. I don't know your position in JF, but somebody with Project Management or Marketing Authority needs to make a statement. There is nothing worse than 'on-going' status updates, it tells me for one there is no plan, or not a realistic one.

I would be happy to wait November, if it there was a plan. In the lack of one I am now considering the refund route, which would be a shame. Sure the developers would appreciate one too.

There are clear flaws on this potentially great product and band-aiding is not going to help any further.

The lack of commercial announcements, fan-fare and independent reviews does not surprise me at this time.

Thanks - I think?

Blaunarwal wrote: Most of us can reach Pauls framerates. Just disable all traffic.

Airliner and GA traffic controlled and present via Ultimate Traffic and AI cars, boats etc is turned off. Weather was real weather via Opus.

No tricks involved and my only cfg edits are for himemfix=1, wideview=true and LOD at 6.5. I don't use NI and I haven't tried tweaking for over a year as I see little point in it.

If I fly further south (like Midlands and lower i.e. getting closer to London), I turn the autogen down 1 level to save my sanity.

I think what many people would like to see is the actual PC specs that were used by the developer during final testing prior to release.
Also, what exactly were the FSX graphic settings used by the developer and any add-ons that were possibly active during late pre-release testing.

It must have run OK at some point on someone's PC otherwise it surely wouldn't have been released (would it...?? Or would it?)

So please, someone at JF post the specs and settings of the PC and FSX you used. Its not a big request to make. Let us compare notes.

If you cannot post them, all its going to do is make Tonka users with issues believe even more so that it was a broken donkey right from the word go

After having the Canberra PR9 I really want the Tonka, but I'm not putting my hand in my wallet until I see some respectable results and feedback coming through here. I'm afraid the same feelings exist about the TriStar Professional version despite being a fan of the original release and being a fairly proactive member trying to help others with issues (though that's another forum that's very quiet now).

In the meantime I've gone with the Iris Grob Tutor. It's blimmin'lovely

A Quick video FPS test. Specs listed in the video.  I think (at least as far as I am concerned with my system) they are nearly there.  Looking forward to the next update.