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Paul Golding
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Eloquent as ever Simon, though as an Essex lad, I think it's fair to point out that "would of" is most likely the poor spelling (by someone from outside Essex) of the grammatically correct "would've". It's bad enough that we don't speak properly, without suggesting we can't write the Queens English as well As for a purchase being an embarkation, not a destination.....brilliant |
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neilintheus
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It's all getting a bit heated. I know its frustrating to be denied ones new toy in this way, but a little perspective would be really helpful right now.
For us its frustrating. For JF, they actually have peoples incomes riding on this working. They have far more to lose than we have and although I'm miffed, I'm not going to start a process of vilification against a bunch of people I've never met and who are the only people out there wanting to create high quality British jets. Do you think there are millions of people out there like us lining up to buy these addons? So lets swallow down the frustration and give them a chance. Nobody here is going to lose anything, but the installation time.
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miragecy
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I fully agree, lets give them a chance guys, I know they are talented people and their products are very high quality. Andy
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Delta558
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Regarding the ground handling / landing:
This is deliberately difficult. As has been commented, until the lift dumping is engaged if you are a touch too hard touching down you will bounce. One of the many videos I used as reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epgorQfRY9w
1m10s onwards, there are two distinct touchdowns before the lift-dumping is engaged, and that is on a relatively smooth landing!
Speeds are also critical - use of the flap above recommended speeds will result in ballooning (note also the flap retraction speed table for take-off), and approach speed should be 140kts + 4kts for every 1000kg above 14000kg AUW. Exceed these speeds and it will float.
You may also note vibration when taxying at higher speeds / taking off - this is also from cockpit footage, the vibration should begin to take effect over about 30kts (so above normal taxy speeds) and begin to dissipate slightly above 100kts as the wings begin producing enough lift to take the weight of the airframe.
You may also note that the Tornado will taxy at idle thrust settings. This again is accurate, comment from a Tornado pilot on the testing team: "It will taxy at idle thrust at all but the heaviest weights, even then you only need a small nudge on the throttle to get moving and then back to idle. You generally allow it to get up to about 28kts in a straight line before bringing it back to about 18 using the brakes"
I hope that may help a little,
Paul.
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miragecy
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Is the flight path marker working properly for you guys?
Andy
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Henk Schuitemaker
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Not yet, it is being fixed. |
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miragecy
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Ok thanks, I thought I was missing something Andy
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captain vodka
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SNAVE
"`purchase` is embarkation, not destination…"
a ha' I new I had heard it before. . . "Success is a journey, not a destination"- Arthur Ashe. At least be original ! That's what the smart people do anyway moving on. . . |
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MartinW
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Chaps.....
This is a friendly forum. Lets refrain from winding each other by making fun of grammar etc. If we all calm down and be nice to each other, it will give me a nice warm glow and all will be well with the world. |
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Martyn
Just Flight Staff Development Manager Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: Huntingdon, UK Points: 7615 |
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Hi all
A performance hotfix is now available: http://www.justflight.com/support/tornado-gr1/e252580 We will be uploading a slightly updated version of it later this evening (GMT), so I would probably suggest downloading this tomorrow morning. As explained in the hotfix text this is not a 'proper' service pack but a hotfix which should hopefully improve performance whilst we continue to look into the issue. Thanks Martyn - JF
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Steve M
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Thanks for your efforts so far. Keep up the good work.
Steve M |
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Pip B
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Hi, put the hot fix in tonight, turned off all the vc panels and the FPS has gone up to 15FPS yay!! good stuff
TRF porpoises less, flight control easier etc, outside views fsp appear a bit lower but so what!! Thankyou
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dunno
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The hotfix causes a CTD on my system...
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Rebo
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I also get a CTD in P3DV2 when I want to start a flight.
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Pip B
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Hi, just started a flight again, no CTD, but I was not getting any out of memory errors either....?
P3D 2.5 latest version Latest Nvidia Drivers P3D installed on seperate SSD
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Pip B
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Now P3D hangs if I try to look at the Manual oh dear.......
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PVI_Eagle
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the hotfix causes transparent textures ...
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Hulmelad
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Good morning,
I have put in the hot fix and turned off (unchecked) all the VC gauges and I am pleased to say my FRPS have now improved going up to 15 to 18. I can now put this bad boy through some low level training 😉 Thank for the hot fix, hopefully when you release the full service patch I will see this excellent model as you intended it to be. Hulmelad |
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RemcovanR
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Hotfix did solve some of the issues, but only with basic VC and with REX switched off. Stiil, after 30 seconds of flying FSX crashes telling me my pc ran out of memory... So, now I'll wait for the official patch, hoping this will solve the issues. If not, than this JF product is no for me to enjoy.
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Regards, Remco
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dunno
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Is this already the updated hotfix or will it be released this evening?
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