No UK Traffic

After installing 360 correctly and generating FPlans etc, I have no UK traffic whatsoever. In the Presets there is no EG bgl at all. I have no Birmingham FPlans nor Exeter or Leeds to name a few. I do however get traffic at gatwick. I had installed UK2000 VFR but uninstalled hoping that it may have overwritten some files. I am baffled now as to why I cannot get most of the UK plans installed, and why they are so widespread. What do I need to do to get ALL Uk airports to have traffic please. Not wanting to create some yet but rely on the ones contained within the installation of 360.

I only found traffic at Gatwick. I randomly tried Dubai and Dublin and there was traffic there in abundance as i had set the traffic to 100% in FSX to make sure I was not seeing traffic because of a low setting.

jjaycee wrote: I only found traffic at Gatwick. I randomly tried Dubai and Dublin and there was traffic there in abundance as i had set the traffic to 100% in FSX to make sure I was not seeing traffic because of a low setting.

So there's traffic at Dubai and Dublin. I will therefore assume there is traffic elsewhere in the sim as well ... New York, Shanghai, Tokyo, Moscow, etc. If yes, then I'd say Traffic 360 is installed correctly and working fine. And, subsequently, that would indicate your fsx.cfg and other files and their folder locations etc are all correct. As for military traffic, I'd get the normal AI working first, and then move on to the military traffic ... work on one problem at a time.

OK, so, with traffic in Dubai and Dublin, and potentially in New York, Shanghai, Tokyo, Moscow, etc, the question really is this ... why is there no traffic in the UK, and ONLY in the UK? Logic seems to indicate it has to have something to do with the UK2000 VFR scenery installation.

A possible clue/answer may lie in the fact that FSX's AI traffic files are special files with a .BGL file extension, and some AI traffic programs and some scenery packages install and/or use an OLDER STYLE version of the .BGL format. And, here's the critical part, FSX is only capable of supporting one of these AI traffic .BGL files in the old format. If you have more than one AI traffic .BGL file that is in the older format, then FSX will disable any other traffic.

However, I would have thought that this meant ALL traffic would be disabled ... meaning you shouldn't have traffic in Dubai, Dublin (and New York, Shanghai, Tokyo, Moscow, etc). In other words, I would have thought that if FSX was going to disable any traffic, it would be worldwide, rather than just localised (to the UK, in this case).

Nevertheless, it won't hurt to check your "C:\...\Flight Simulator X\Scenery\World\Scenery" folder and search for an AI traffic .BGL file that may have been installed or left behind by the UK2000 VFR product (even though you uninstalled UK2000 VFR, it may have left one or more files behind). The Traffic 360 AI traffic .BGL file will be called something like "Traffic360.bgl" (and is in the newer .BGL format), and FSX's original AI traffic .BGL file (that has Orbit and Pacifica airlines etc) would have been renamed by the Traffic 360 installation to something like "TrafficAircraft._bgl"). Those files are the ones you DO want to keep. Depending on any other add-ons you may have, there could also be plenty of other .BGL files in that folder (scenery files) ... you are specifically looking for AI traffic files, and not scenery files ... so just be aware of that.

I'd suggest you do not DELETE any files in that folder (in case they ARE needed). Instead I would simply remove them from that folder to a temporary location, or, just rename them in a similar way to how FSX's original traffic file was renamed by the Traffic 360 installer ("TrafficAircraft._bgl" ... note the underscore character). This way you keep the files as backups in case they are actually needed.

I am not suggesting this is the answer to the issue. I'm am really only guessing. But, it is something you can check.

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As for your question about the Service Pack, I don't know. But, it won't hurt anything to download and install it, just in case. And, as an added bonus, doing that might end up fixing up your problem.

OK - had more thoughts on this subject.

I have had UK2000 installed on my system for years without it having ANY effect on my TrafficX EXCEPT that I have had to arrange the Scenery Library order in FSX to ensure that I get the airport designs that I want to see ( I have got UK2000 HIGHER than TrafficX ). UK2000 AFCAD's have not caused any problems - they sit in their own directories and just add to the general local VFR in the UK (using default FSX aircraft of course).

Note to Freddy = I am surprised that you are not flying over to the UK to use some of our lovely, small country airfields! OK I am sure Australia also has lovely airfields too.

The original FSX AI traffic file (containing Orbit, World, etc) was, I believe, "TrafficAircraft.bgl". When you install TrafficX or 360 it renames this to "TrafficAircraft._bgl" and adds a new file "TrafficX.bgl" or "Traffic360.bgl" as the case may be. This populates the whole world, including the UK with masses of AI flights, including quite a lot of military. I was under the impression that the Military Pack was an addon to the main program (not a stand alone) but I could be wrong as I don't have it.
Do a full un-install of Traffic 360 using the supplied un-Install program (failure to do it this way will not restore some files back their original status and changes to the "fsx.cfg" and "scenery.cfg" will not get undone). Check that you now get Orbit and World Airlines at your UK airfields and only then re-install Traffic 360. Now check that you get normal traffic everywhere BEFORE you 'fiddle around' inside Traffic 360. Many users have come to grief due to the poor quality of instructions included in the Manual

RayM wrote: Note to Freddy = I am surprised that you are not flying over to the UK to use some of our lovely, small country airfields! OK I am sure Australia also has lovely airfields too.

Hehe.

There's plenty of great country and outback airfields here in Aus. And the boys at FTX (ORBX), as well as the guys at OZx scenery, both continue to keep churning them out. Throw in the sheer size of this country, and you've got plenty to find and see here, just plenty.

And then there's New Zealand ... easily accessible from Australian airports ... now THAT is a lovely place to explore and fly.

Thanks for all your suggestions above. I now have it working after a full reinstall of FSX and 360. By the way Traffic 360 includes the Military pak. I am disappointed however at the lack of military traffic at brize norton, UK's biggest airfield. I remeber I used to have lots of planes there on an old install of TrafficX and the military pluspaks, but now I only have 3 max at the main area and 7 or so static behind buildings at he far end of the base. My trafic settings are maxed at 100% for both airlines and VFR. I have no idea how to increase it. I agree that the Traffic Control centre seems very complex to me. I itried adding a plan for an E-3 aircraft deoparting Brize at 9am. The plan installed correctly, saved, compiled, but no such flight at Brize at 9am. Where am i doing wrong. Remember I am also using UK2000 and have removed UK2000 flight plans for Brize.

jjaycee,

Great news that you got it going! And, yes, I agree with Ray that you can try adding aircraft (using Traffic 360) to Brize Norton. After all, Traffic 360 is not just a program that provides AI planes in the sim, it is also a program that allows YOU to add/edit/modify the AI to how you want it. Want aircraft at Brize Norton? Then Traffic 360 provides the means and the tools for you to do it. Just remember that after adding and editing flight plans you need to do a COMPILE of the AI traffic database so that your changes will appear in the sim.

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Ray,

Bad news on the sim not working and requiring a reinstall. Look at the positive ... your sim will be clean, untarnished, and will probably run better as a result. That is, until you start manipulating it again ... as we do, of course.

So only a partial success, eh.
May I suggest that you experiment using the TCC by adding several small aircraft at a default FSX airport, say Edwards AFB in the USA where I am sure there will be loads of available parking spots for F-18's etc. This should avoid any limitations of any airfield you are currently trying to use.

I often schedule several aircraft to depart at the same time and going to the same destination - they will actually fly in formation after about 5-10 minutes after taking off. The aircraft will take it in turn to get ATC clearance, start up, taxi out and take off. You can schedule as many aircraft as you like to depart at the same time.

One way to achieve more 'static' aircraft (this is one of Freddy's ideas) is to schedule some aircraft to depart to a close destination and return but do this in the middle of the night when you are not likely to be at the airport yourself. These aircraft will just stand at the parking until the following night but will make the airport look more populated.

Remember that all of the times you enter in the TCC are LOCAL to the airport. When you go into FSX, make sure you set the time to the same LOCAL time and you should see your AI. But, I am sorry to say that Traffic X/360 and FSX time variations (+/- UTC) do not always agree so you might have to change your FSX time by plus or minus 1 hour to ensure that your aircraft appear. I often go to the airport 2-3 hours before they are due to depart to ensure that I can find them.

Lastly, I will repeat Freddy's advice that after modifying any schedules you MUST re-compile to see the changes.

The black CMD box is perfectly normal and just means that Traffic is using an 'old-fashioned' program file that needs to open a DOS-type window - you may not be old enough to remember these! Just wait until the black box disappears and the message "Compile completed" (or whatever it says) appears. You should then have a new file in the 'FSX\Scenery\World\scenery' folder.
Let us know how you get on.

freddy many thanks. The manual appears very similar but there is a point in the TrafficX manual that appears but I cannot see in 360 options. There is a piece about editing a RAF flight plan in the Editing a Flight Plan section. It says to select Armed Forces united Kingdom from the Airline/Carrier list. I do not have that option. The only choices i have ever seen are