God and Physics

After spending the last hour reading through these posts, as well as watching that video (found that really helpful in answering some of my own religious questions) I am one person who finds himself in the middle of the discussion subject.

I am Christian and am very strong hearted about what I believe. I do believe that religion has helped many issues within the world that we exist.

However I find it hard to understand certain issues, examples being allowing gay couples to be lawfully married and another the existence of third world countries.

The question  posed as said 'does God exist' to me is not an easy answer. There is lack of evidence as already stated and my views of scientific theories is to be confused as I find it hard to dismiss the theory of evolution.

Miracles; "Einstein didn't believe in a supernatural force himself but he had a deep relevance", yet the sense of being moral is a religious view; not that it is overall a belief, but a sense of belief.

I like the example of God doing miracles all the time being like a Alice in wonderland. That's completely true.

With regards to the resurrection of Christ I believe strongly. For those who haven't you should watch 'The Passion of Christ'.

John, so if god isn't the creator of 'everything' and the universe already existed. Are you saying you believe god was created at the same instant as the big bang, as a product of the big bang? For that to be true I see no physical means by which that could happen, a sentient and all powerful being created from nothing seems unlikely.

 

The only possibility I can think of for that to be feasible [some think] is the theory that given enough time [an enormous span of time] that eventually according to some interpretations of physics, a sentient being could appear from nowhere.

 

Surprisingly the possibility of a book a chair a house spontaneously appearing out of thin air is not zero, the same applies to super intellect. They call them ‘Boltzmann brains’, after the 19th-century Austrian physicist Ludwig Boltzmann, a pioneer in thermodynamics and statistical mechanics. Boltzmann posed the question of whether the universe could have arisen from a thermal fluctuation; his work suggested the idea that a fluctuation could, give rise to a conscious entity that sees the universe. In this regard Boltzmann brains are not necessarily actual brains, but rather are a metaphor for observers of the universe that might appear spontaneously.

 

An unlikely scenario though, just an idea.

 

Or perhaps you believe that god is a being more advanced than us, but not exactly a god. As Arthur C Clarke said any suitably advanced intelligence would be indistinguishable from god.

I'm not an atheist. I'm an agnostic.

Nobody can say that god doesn't exist, or that god does exist. You can't prove it either way. But you can say that it's either plausible or implausible. And in the case of a belief in a magical supernatural creator you can say that based on our knowledge of the way the universe functions it's very implausible.

 

Therefore I'm an agnostic.

I think I've said this before but cannot remember. I've told friends and they classed me as a philosopher (Martin you'll like this).

Statement of fact in my personal opinion:

God created the chicken till man proved him wrong.

No offence was meant.

Sorry I had to cut off so abruptly. I was working at church tonight.
I raised the question  earlier "Who or what is God?" Well I can't possibly claim to know for sure, but it seems plausible to my way of thinking that He was not necessarily (and these are my own thoughts based on evidence I have received) created at the moment of the big bang, but possibly a product of it? Well, indirectly we all are, assuming of course the theory is correct. This leads me back to a point I made earlier about life being eternal. I believe we have a soul or spirit if you like and that the spirit is not dependant on the physical body, but merely uses it on this earth plain.
As a Spiritualist, I know an awful lot of Spiritual mediums. I don't mean the fortune tellers that travel with the carnival, nor do I mean psychics, but people who are clairvoyant or clairaudient and are able to converse with, see or hear loved ones who have already passed. Stuff and nonsense would long have been my reaction to that, but sometimes its funny how things can change your mind. I want to ommit my own spirituality from this please, but would like to tell you that it is possible for a medium to give specific and accurate messages from departed loved ones to any number of people within a room. I've seen it done at least once per week for the past few years. When I say specific, I mean names, addresses, ailments, characteristics, professions, vices, loves and all things human or animal. For example; one of the first times I went to church, I was told of Molly in spirit connecting with me. Well I can honestly say I don't know anyone called Molly, living or otherwise and told him so. "Yes you do!" he said "Four legs" and went on to describe, the colour (Tiger brindle), breed and temperament anr foibles of my friend's dog, Molly, who I had recently taken to the vet to be put to sleep. I felt that was pretty specific. He also described the unusual arrangement of the furniture in my living room and two very unusual things that happened to me. One night about three years ago I walked through the doorway into my living room and as I did I "bumped" into someone. I saw him clear as day and I can tell you I nearly had a canary! I could describe him exactly it was that vivid. A year or so later I saw him again as I got up from the settee and walked to the same door to leave the room. He was by the window, this time head and shoulders only, but he turned and watched me leave the room. I got the gooseflesh, but put both events down to my mind playing tricks and only ever told my wife. Anyway, this medium had both these events in his arsenal and when he gave them to me I was shocked to say the least. Happily, he was able to identify the spirit as my grandfather and gave me his name. A little research on my part uncovered that it was my great grandfather and photographs made for visual confirmation.
Although far from the most convincing evidence I've seen, this is just one example of hundreds I have had, but it was personal to me, so at the risk of ridicule I relate it.
Now please humour me, I have a strong belief that these spirits collectively are what we have in God, I believe God is Spirit. We all are part of God in short. That is why we should treat each other with love and tenderness and above all compassion. That is how God is powerful through all living things.
I also feel that this for the time being at least falls outside of science as we know it. I doesn't conflict with science as such as far as I can see. I mean not to take anything away from any Religious following by saying what I have. Please know that these are just how I believe things to be. I can't prove it to you on these forums. Above all I don't wish to trample on anyone's faith.

Yes, electricity is flowing at this atomic level, but electricity alone is insufficient for coherent, conscious thought.

I wish they would submit themselves to science too. By the way, they are asked to travel from church to church and seldom even get their fares paid. Who would have thought it would be me who's keeping this thread alive? I was thinking about the fear of death and I'm a little fearful of leaving my loved ones, but that's as far as it goes. Often time expired folks welcome it don't they.
I'm not too sure about St. Peter and the pearly gates though, I would imagine it's just like stepping to the other side without any great journey. Once again, just my thoughts at work here...

VulcanB2 wrote: There are "things" I'm aware of that I won't go into detail about, but most definitely exist beyond my existence. Maybe you'd consider it a spiritual thing, but I consider it extra-dimensional, as it is the only way to describe what it seems to be based on its nature and what it (so far) represents, every time it has presented itself. I will say this about it though: so far, it has 100% of time preceded a serious incident that could result, specifically, in loss of life, but before the event itself has occurred sometimes by days (out-ruling any subliminal or sub-conscious triggers). Best regards, Vulcan.

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