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MartinW
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A Nobel prize on the way for someone if confirmed. "If inflation is there, the multiverse is there," said Andrei Linde of Stanford University in California.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25249-multiverse-gets-real-with-glimpse-of-big-bang-ripples.html#.UzKZ0U1OW1s |
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hifly
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Interesting stuff Martin, the thought of multi universes is pretty mind blowing but yes. Why not?
The question that really intrigues me is what was there before the Big Bang? Time, matter, energy, light, anything? Answers on a postcard in no more than 25 words except the God word. |
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MartinW
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According to M-Theory, higher dimensional space. An infinite number of bubble universes floating in higher dimensional space. Of if you don't believe in such things, it becomes a meaningless question, because time, space, everything was created at the moment of the big bang. In this scenario there would have been absolute nothingness before, in fact there was no before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory |
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That sounds like Mutleys. Thanks Martin, I will look into M theory. |
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MarkH
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Hi Geoff, It's here at 42 mins. The other 2 shows of the series 'Reality on the Rocks' is well worth a watch too. Regards, M.
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hifly
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Hi Mark, thanks for the link. In the whole space time continuum I'm running out of time myself to fit everything in. Anyway hope all is well with you and yours.
Here's a map I've made of the Pre-Universe Universe. G d |
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Hi Geoff, All good here, hope you guys are well. So who made GD?
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hifly
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Ah Ha! The chicken and the egg.
Here's my theory. Time is infinite, no beginning or end. The Universe has three cycles, big bang, expansion, contraction, big bang... ad infinitum. Nobel Prize please. |
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Mmm, contraction seems to have been ruled out. No Nobel Prize for you Sir,
Not yet.
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hifly
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[QUOTE=mark.hudson6] Mmm, contraction seems to have been ruled out.
Who told you that? Maybe we are on a collision course with another universe/s, then we get another big bang and it starts all over again. See, simple really. Here's a poem I made about the universe, it's called The Universe Verse. The universe, Has a curse, And it's getting worse, Call for the nurse, Too late, Call for a hearse. Pulitzer Prize please. |
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Dark energy Geoff.
The universe is actually not just expanding, but accelerating. Dark energy is hypothesised to permeate all of space. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy Essentially, rather than a big crunch, the universe will continue to expand until it's a very dark place. At which time any civilisation intelligent enough to observe the cosmos, will have no evidence at all that there are stars, planets, and possibly other life forms, they truly will believe they are alone. So we are very lucky to be around now, at a time when we truly can observe the wonders of the cosmos. In answer to your god question, Mark is totally wrong. There was god, and prior to that a super god that created the reality that god could exist in. Prior to that there was hyper god, super hyper god, super mega hyper god and on and on... until we get to Q from Star Trek. |
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You may be [kind of] right. M-Theory again, branes. [Not the brain with an "I" like the one Cameron hasn't got] Rippling brane's floating in higher dimensional space. [Hyper space in science fiction] When one rippling brane collides with another, a new big bang, and thus, another universe is born. Many of the those universes will be governed by physics that are totally different to ours and thus life impossible, others may have realties that function according to similar rules as ours. Not as farfetched as it seems, especially as we now seem to have evidence for inflation. P.S. Your rhyming couplets are the work of genius. The piece above, is a creation that's reminiscent of the great masters. |
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Mark, that was great, enjoyed it very much. |
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Yes Martin, it was a good series. It's one of the first of it's type I can remember.
The Pulitzer Prize is in the bag Geoff.
Regards, M.
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Hope you're watching Neil DeGrasse Tyson's Cosmos mark!
I must admit, I wasn't that well informed regarding Giordano Bruno. Incredible to think that this man actually dreamt that the Earth revolved around the sun and that the stars were other suns like ours, with planets orbiting them, some with life. He went way, way further than even the then controversial Copernican model. He still believed in god, and was effectively claiming god was far more magnificent than the religious community had envisaged... and yes, they burnt him at the stake for his trouble. Despite having absolutely no evidence for his claims... he was right! |
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I sure am Martin. Watched episode 3 just last night.
I love the decision that it is first broadcast in the US on FOX straight after Family Guy (Seth MacFarlane was key to getting FOX to agree to this) to try and expose the show to people who would not usually watch this type of TV before it being repeated the next night on National Geographic. I had never heard of poor old Bruno. I'm sure Carl would be very happy with the way this is turning out.
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Have only caught episode one so far, have two recorded.
I bet you missed the ISS orbit with Dermot O'Leary didn't you? |
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Yes and No We put it on but lasted about 5 mins before we couldn't take it anymore. Was was it meant to be? X Factor meets Stargazing Live? Nasty telly .
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[QUOTE=mark.hudson6] Yes and No We put it on but lasted about 5 mins before we couldn't take it anymore. Was was it meant to be? X Factor meets Stargazing Live? Nasty telly . [/QUOTe
I agree Mark, I tried watching these progs but found Dermont O Dreary simplistic and somewhat patronising. Where's James Burke when you need him? |
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Dermot O Dreary Classic. Dermot was a awful choice for host. The persistent time delays just compounded his ineptitude. @Martin, Something I don't understand is why the latest discovery supports a M-Theory Brain Multiverse, I have read that the string guys are excited but have yet to find an explanation why. Is it to do with the 'suitcase size of matter' Brian Greene talks about in his book? I will have to read that bit again.
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