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    Posted: 22 Nov 2013 at 4:40am

Hi all,

I've decided to try out painting a livery for the first time and have an issue I need some help with.

I decided on a Braniff International Jellybean Livery for my first time since the majority of the plane is one color. After some comical trial and error I've got most of it figured out.

The issue I'm now having is the aft fuselage section is showing a pure black logo font and the front and center sections are showing more of a faded and weathered font. I copied and pasted as a layer the same picture of the "Braniff International" font for each of the sides respectively. (Each side has its own slant angle) I'm at a loss on trying to figure this out. I think it might have to do with the alpha channel but not positive.

I've been working on it for almost 3 weeks now and am almost finished. My last steps are to get the name along the sides to color match and outline the doors. When it's finished I plan to upload it on avsim to share with everyone interested.

I just found the forum topic of how to post screenshots here and not sure I got it down yet but I’ll try to post a pic to show you if you’re interested in seeing my progress or need it to see what I’m talking about.

Also, I’m exporting the files to .dds using Gimp 2 and using the RGBA8 format.  Is this the right one or should I be using another?  It took a few attempts to get a working dds file and this is the first one I got that actually put paint on the plane in FSX.

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Marc
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This is where I'm at now with the paint and what I'm talking about with the darker letters on the aft section.  Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
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sorry don't know the answer but CONGRATS for your work, this livery is excellent as well as all the BI liveriesClap
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Thanks Yankeeromeo!!!  I'm rather proud of it since it's my first ever paint job. Big smile
I kept all the PSD files layerd and saved them so after I get all the bugs worked out all I have to do is change the fuselage colors and N numbers to get the rest of the fleet.  I'm hoping to have at least this one uploaded to avsim by the end of next week.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Paul Golding Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Nov 2013 at 9:24am
Nice paint :-)
 
As for the non-faded/weathered lettering, this looks like those letters are on a different layer to the other letters.  It's like they're sitting on a layer above the weathering effects layers.
 
Normally, you would have the paint layer at the bottom, then the lettering and then all the other details and effects on top.
 
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Originally posted by Tubthumper Tubthumper wrote:

Thanks Yankeeromeo!!!  I'm rather proud of it since it's my first ever paint job. Big smile
I kept all the PSD files layerd and saved them so after I get all the bugs worked out all I have to do is change the fuselage colors and N numbers to get the rest of the fleet.  I'm hoping to have at least this one uploaded to avsim by the end of next week.

Waahoo, so bigger Congrats for your ever first oneClap
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Thanks Paul!!!
 
I never thought about the order of the layers being an issue; that's probably the cause.  I do remember just adding a layer and going for it and not paying any attention to the order of them.  I plan on painting the outline around the doors today and I'll check it out then.
 
Either way, your lesson of paying attention to the order of the layers is a good one; and I thank you for it.  Smile
 
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Yankeeromeo, they look easy enough. I'm willing to give it a go. A couple of issues I have are: 1) I don’t know how to paint over the windows to make just 3 on the side of the fuselage on the MPA.  I have some ideas how; but haven’t experimented with it yet.  2) I can’t positively make out the number on the nose gear door and can’t see the N number in this pic. (I think it’s 2813 on the gear door)   3) I did an internet search on Airliners.net and Bing for more pics of this MPA plane and came up with nothing.  Can you give me more info to improve my results getting more pics of it?  4) I don’t know how to give the bare metal surfaces that polished look.  If you’re looking for a shiny new 109RD I can’t do it at the moment.  I found a Painters Workshop forum topic at flightsim.com that’s been most helpful with my first endeavor of painting.  I remember there being a topic in that form about the adding shine to bare metal but I haven’t gotten it down yet.   I’ll research it some more and keep trying.  The best I can do right now is give you a dingy, dull, and weathered plane.

I want to finish my Braniff project first and then I’ll start on the MPA.  Let’s save Airlift for after I learn how to do polished metal surfaces.

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Hello Folks,

thank you very much for your work, time and TalentThumbs Up
Unfortunately i have no more infos about the Michigan Peninsula Airways DC-8.
In fact, i need a DC-8-43 cargo version, N & C id numbers, any colors, i choose the Airlift one because, i like the metal shine, and i thought it is pretty simple to do,but...
So, Braniff project first then...
Maybe some J.F Folks or any paint specialist could give some cues for the painting jobHandshake
Anyway,  enjoy your Braniff ventureStar
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Paul Golding your sugestion was spot on! I did have the order of the layers mixed up and after corecting them all the fuselage fonts matched! Thumbs Up  I have a few details to fix and then she'll be ready to upload.  I got the door trim finished and decided to put some red trim along the backside of the spoilers and am working on getting them uniform.
 
Here's some screenshots of her now...
 
 
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I just uploaded this repaint at Avsim and Flightsim.com.  Enjoy...Big smile
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Congrats for your First livery, very nice, i especially like the black part canopyStar
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