A pair of observations

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   Hi 

I have made 2 observations on this otherwise fine model.

The exterior visual models are beautiful, BUT they all (as far as I remember) have the same error at the tail. They have this square part that doesn't look at all like the much sharper edge on the real thing:

My second problem is with the speed of the landing gear animation. I have found that it extends in about 7 seconds and retracts in about 9 seconds. I think that this is a bit too fast. According to the manual found here: http://pcmuseum.tripod.com/dc3/dc3designfeature.pdf the time to retract during a normal take-off is 11½ seconds. I haven't found any documentation for the extension time, and this will propably be a bit faster as the function is being helped by gravity, but 7 seconds???

Best regards
Kim Dahl

PS: I know that I should propably post this as a support request...

BTW: wouldn't it be a good idea to have a post containing an updated bug list. This way people can see if their observations have already been reported.

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kimdahl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Location: Denmark Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote kimdahl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: A pair of observations Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 8:51pm
	Hi I have made 2 observations on this otherwise fine model. The exterior visual models are beautiful, BUT they all (as far as I remember) have the same error at the tail. They have this square part that doesn't look at all like the much sharper edge on the real thing: My second problem is with the speed of the landing gear animation. I have found that it extends in about 7 seconds and retracts in about 9 seconds. I think that this is a bit too fast. According to the manual found here: http://pcmuseum.tripod.com/dc3/dc3designfeature.pdf the time to retract during a normal take-off is 11½ seconds. I haven't found any documentation for the extension time, and this will propably be a bit faster as the function is being helped by gravity, but 7 seconds??? Best regards Kim Dahl PS: I know that I should propably post this as a support request... BTW: wouldn't it be a good idea to have a post containing an updated bug list. This way people can see if their observations have already been reported.

Martyn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Just Flight Staff Development Manager Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: Huntingdon, UK Points: 7615	Post Options Post Reply Quote Martyn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 8:52am
	Hi Kim, Thanks for the observations! So we can log your feedback, could you send this to us in a support request form too? http://www.justflight.com/supportrequest.asp?supportProductID=255 Thanks
	Martyn Just Flight Ltd

Stratocruiser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 07 Dec 2010 Location: Naples FL Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stratocruiser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 3:39pm
	It is interesting that the DC-3 shown as British European Airways G-AGHL in the earlier posted preview shots has the correct treatment of the tail. Take a look here: http://forum.justflight.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=15228 Maybe some liveries are right and some wrong? Howard

Martyn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Just Flight Staff Development Manager Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: Huntingdon, UK Points: 7615	Post Options Post Reply Quote Martyn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 3:49pm
	Hi Howard, We have included two variants, one with a tail-cone and one without, as per the real aircraft. Thanks
	Martyn Just Flight Ltd

Stratocruiser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 07 Dec 2010 Location: Naples FL Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stratocruiser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 5:56pm
	Interesting. I never really paid that much attention to this area before, but can not remember ever seeing one without the tail cone.

Martyn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Just Flight Staff Development Manager Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: Huntingdon, UK Points: 7615	Post Options Post Reply Quote Martyn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 8:59am
	Hi, There are quite a few aircraft without the larger tail-cone: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Viarco-Colombia/Douglas-DC-3-(C-47-53-117-R4D-Skytrain-Dakota)/1230323/L/ Thanks
	Martyn Just Flight Ltd

kimdahl Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Check-In Staff Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Location: Denmark Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote kimdahl Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 10:11pm
	Hi guys I would like to make it clear that I am not talking about the plane having or NOT having a large tail-cone. The area marked with a circle on my first picture is the strange square area just below the rudder surface which I believe should have a sharper edge on both types of tails. I also think that the edge of the rudder surface itself should be a lot thinner than on the present model. Oh, and another little observation. Maybe it's just me being a bit odd, but I have read through the various aircraft.cfg's. And I find it a bit annoying that the ui_type is always spelled DC3 or C47 when it should be DC-3 or C-47. Regards Kim