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    Posted: 01 Oct 2010 at 8:46am
Seems this guy orbits in the so called 'Goldilocks zone'. Hence it's possible suitability for life.
 
It orbits a red dwarf though, so one side always faces the sun, and one side always away, so you wouldn't want to be circumnavigating, unless you like being frozen followed by roasted. Big%20smile
 
Anyway, it could be the most 'Earth like' planet yet discovered. And when you considered that our capability to detect planets around stars is relatively new, and we have discovered this guy so quickly, it could signify that earth-like planets are very common. Unless we've been unbelievably lucky of course.
 
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Gliese%20581%20g An artist's impression of Gliese 581g and its parent star

Astronomers have detected an Earth-like exoplanet that may have just the right kind of conditions to support life.

 

Any emerging life forms would have a wide range of stable climates to choose from and to evolve around, depending on their longitude”

Gliese 581g lies some 20 light-years away in its star's "Goldilocks zone" - a region surface temperatures would allow the presence of liquid water.

Scientists say that the newly found world could also potentially have an atmosphere.

Their findings, made with the Keck telescope in Hawaii, appear in the Astrophysical Journal.

The researchers, from the University of California at Santa Cruz (UCSC) and the Carnegie Institution of Washington, have been studying the movement of the planet's parent star, a red dwarf called Gliese 581, for 11 years.

Their observations have revealed a number of exoplanets spinning around the star.

Possibility of life

Recently they discovered two new alien worlds, so together with the previous findings, this brings the number of planets orbiting Gliese 581 to six.

But the most important new revelation is that one of those worlds might be the most Earth-like planet yet identified.

"Our findings offer a very compelling case for a potentially habitable planet," said Steven Vogt, an astronomer at UCSC.

"The fact that we were able to detect this planet so quickly and so nearby tells us that planets like this must be really common."

Gliese 581g has a mass about three to four times that of Earth. It orbits its sun in 37 days and is thought to be a rocky world. It has enough gravity to possibly have an atmosphere.

An%20artists%20impression%20of%20Gliese%20581c Another Earth-like planet, Gliese 581c, was discovered a few years ago

Gliese 581g is located in its star's "Goldilocks zone" - a zone in space where temperatures are neither too hot nor too cold for liquid water.

Such a zone defines the region in a star-centered orbit where an Earth-like planet could sustain that water on its surface - and therefore life.

"We had planets on both sides of the habitable zone - one too hot and one too cold - and now we have one in the middle that's just right," said Dr Vogt.

The planet's average surface temperature is estimated to be between -12C and -31C.

But unlike Earth, this alien world has one side always facing its sun and the other side constantly in the dark. So in-between the two sides, between shadow and light, there could be an area where life could potentially thrive.

"Any emerging life forms would have a wide range of stable climates to choose from and to evolve around, depending on their longitude," said Dr Vogt.

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Is there any one out there oh%20how%20I%20laughed
If they do find a planet that is able to allow us to live on they will only    just like they have with this one ie bombs, war, Co gas and god knows what else.
 
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They are of course referring to life - as we know it...
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Originally posted by Magic Man Magic Man wrote:

They are of course referring to life - as we know it...
 
They are... you could of course conjure up all kinds of beyond belief lifeforms existing in unbelievably inhospitable places. However, we are looking for the most likely planets that will support life, because we know life like that on our planet exists and what is required for it to exist.
 
It would make no sense to glance at the heavens, and say look, there's a red dwarf, there could be super weird lifeforms that live in the centre of a star. That would be utilizing our imaginations to the extreme, rather than looking for environments we "know" life can exist in.
 
Stretching our imaginations to the limit tells us nothing. Identifying worlds like ours that we know can definitely support life tells us much more. It tells us that life [and super exotic silicone based life etc, is purely theoretical, our carbon based life is fact] is likley.
 
Scientists don't rule out super exotic lifeforms, they just concentrate on what we are capable of  proving or at least amassing evidence on.
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Originally posted by crmathie crmathie wrote:

Is there any one out there oh%20how%20I%20laughed
If they do find a planet that is able to allow us to live on they will only    just like they have with this one ie bombs, war, Co gas and god knows what else.
 
Col. 
 
Don't worry, we couldn't get there. Unless you have just invented hyperdrive. Wink
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Originally posted by MartinW MartinW wrote:

Originally posted by crmathie crmathie wrote:

Is there any one out there oh%20how%20I%20laughed

If they do find a planet that is able to allow us to live on they will only    just like they have with this one ie bombs, war, Co gas and god knows what else.
 
Col. 
 
Don't worry, we couldn't get there. Unless you have just invented hyperdrive. Wink

Ahh yes, however Goldilocks and the three bears might have been living on that planet for billions of years longer than us on this one, So they might come and get us Sleepy

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Originally posted by MartinW MartinW wrote:

Originally posted by crmathie crmathie wrote:

Is there any one out there oh%20how%20I%20laughed
If they do find a planet that is able to allow us to live on they will only    just like they have with this one ie bombs, war, Co gas and god knows what else.

 

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Don't worry, we couldn't get there. Unless you have just invented hyperdrive. Wink


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Ahh yes, however Goldilocks and the three bears might have been living on that planet for billions of years longer than us on this one, So they might come and get us Sleepy

 
In which case, whether we knew their planet existed or not would be irrelevant.
 
If they knew we were hear, and had the incredible technology to get to Earth, then they would do so if they wanted to whether we "knew they existed" or not.
 
Just us knowing their planet is there, doesn't alert them to our presence. We would have to send them a hello... which wouldn't get there for an awfully long time.
 
Applies to any super smart aliens out there. Big%20smile
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Originally posted by MartinW MartinW wrote:

Unless you have just invented hyperdrive. Wink


Well funnily enough....


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Originally posted by Magic Man Magic Man wrote:

They are of course referring to life - as we know it...

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I'm amazed at how closed-minded they are.

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No they aren't Pointy. Smile
 
They're not closed minded in the least. Scientists frequently contemplate exotic lifeforms, even the silicone based notion you watched on Star Trek. Wink
 
The next time you watch a Discovery documentary about such weirdness, it will be NASA  scientists suggesting the weird life-form notions.
 
They are attempting to find worlds with environments we know can support life. Not worlds with an environment that we think maybe, possibly, with a stretch of the imagination might support life... But then on the other hand might not. That would be daft wouldn't it.
 
Exotic life-form theories came from scientists in the first place. Wink
 
 
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I've heard somewhere that this planet is most likely inhabited by bears. Clown
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And they eat porridge apparently. Big%20smile
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