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    Posted: 17 Aug 2010 at 9:49am
Hi All,

Looks like Microsoft have surprised us all with the announcement of a new flight sim in development! "Microsoft Flight"

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

I don't have any more info than what you can see on that website but it does sound as though they are hinting that they might have started all over again with a new engine etc.

We will see...
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That has got to be one of the worst "Sneak peeks" I have ever seen Cry
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Could do with the "preview" lasting a bit longer to see what it really looks like but the little bit they have put on look pretty good Big%20smile
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Who thinks Aerosoft will continue with their new FS? 
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I wish and pray
(Sorry that I mention some products by name and sure, I missed a whole bunch of them)
That the new Microsoft Flight will have the following:
•     Models detailed in and out with fully functional systems like MD-11 from PMDG, E-190, CS or others.
•     External and internal lights like those of Shockwave.
•     Deep and real sounds of cockpit and engines.
•     Call outs that is adaptable and easy to configure like those of edit voice packs.
•     Textures as good as Mcphat products.
•     Advanced traffic system, like X traffic or My X traffic.
•     Weather program that is advanced like REX-2.
•     Very advanced sceneries at least to all major cities and capitals of the world and main historical places and major geographical features, similar to Orbix or Earth simulation.
•     Accurate land class so you don’t see a missing mountain or seeing a forest that is not there.
•     Intelligent ATC that gives you correct routes, SIDS & STARS and more interactive.
•     Flight planner.
•     Navigational charts that includes SIDS & STARS for all airports.
•     Fuel calculators and route finders and other utilities.
•     Add ones like Fspassenger, Air haulers and passengers flight map built in.
•     Data recorder system to store and analysis flight data so you get to learn from your own mistakes.
•     Online flying (multi player) capabilities that is advanced and not stopping every 5 minutes, because of lack of developments because it’s freeware.
•     Dual / Multi screen display that is easy to use with no additional hardware.
•     Online instant support for all products 24/7
•     Hardware to support all the functions and designed especially for FS
•     Hardware accessories should be designed especially for FS like Siteck products.
In addition, let us pray that we no longer suffer of the following:
•     CTD or OOM or similar
•     Low FPS to reach 4 or 3 ??
•     Fatal errors
•     Nickn’s tutorials
•     Nhancers
•     Registry cleaners
•     Anti viruses
•     Memory enhancers
•     3G key for memory recognizing??
•     The UIAutoMationcore.dll crashes.
•     Windows 7 64 / 32 or Vista 64 /32 or Windows XP and of course service packs.
•     Display drivers V+200 or 190 or….
•     Administrative rights issues in windows 7.
At the end, I meant to say that FS is more than a hobby it has become a life style to many of us, instead of paying $1,000 - $2,000 on a course of 2 years span, and getting frustrated on and on with errors, all at the list above I experienced personally, I hope there will be one day a professional system that has it all.
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^^ If all that happens there won't be anything left for add-on developers to do Wink
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What's the bet the Airsimmers 'bus will be released just as Microsoft Flight comes out and it won't be compatible !oh how I laughed
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I guess you are right it wont be good for the industry....I was only imagining the perfect FS..I think it wont be real.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Aug 2010 at 2:35pm
I'd bet money that nothing that currently exists will be compatible with "Flight". Just my own personal feeling
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Tom, there are 3 buses under development now Aerosoft, Air simmers and Flight lab, which one would you pick assuming similar price ?
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From what we've seen so far, as it's mentioned it's an "inclusive" experience and tied into Live, I think it'll be consumer orientated - read, pretty visuals, lacking in complexity.

This has "fly with your mates on X-box" written all over it, not "fly in heavy metal into huge airports hand flying an ILS down to minimums in a systems based procedural simulator".
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Originally posted by Alaaar Alaaar wrote:

Tom, there are 3 buses under development now Aerosoft, Air simmers and Flight lab, which one would you pick assuming similar price ?
 
FSlabs, certainly not AirsimmersWink
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Originally posted by Slopey Slopey wrote:

From what we've seen so far, as it's mentioned it's an "inclusive" experience and tied into Live, I think it'll be consumer orientated - read, pretty visuals, lacking in complexity.

This has "fly with your mates on X-box" written all over it, not "fly in heavy metal into huge airports hand flying an ILS down to minimums in a systems based procedural simulator".
 
Agreed.  This has been the rumor all along.
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Darn it then. FS9 for me!

But Lazer, it should have basics of stuff like Traffic X and ActiveSky or Rex or whatever it was but the chance of cheap upgrades if you so wished... it'd keep the price and the size down - I don't want to find it requires 200Gb of memory because the current computer in my house only has 119GB free...

But the ultimate Flight Sim will be built by a Flight-addict such as ourselves...

Allard doing the airports plan, Slopey programming, me, I could write the manual or something... someone else like Herky design the airports using an AFCAD or something similar, and all of you as beta testers!

But the biggest mistake Microsoft keeps on making is making absolutely everything beforehand obsolete. I don't of anyone with FS2002, and Allardjd and I seem to be the only FS9ers using these forums...
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Also, any reason why it's taking 20 minutes to load the preview?
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NotYet, I still fly FS9Smile
 
The sea in the teaser looks great and so does the bi-plane, even it was just for two seconds. 
 
However, if any of you read the press release that was displayed on the webpage it does say
 
"Today, we’re bringing powerful, inventive gaming experiences to the Windows-based PC,” said Phil Spencer, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios. “Over the years, our PC heritage captured the hearts and minds of millions of players. Reinventing these iconic franchises with social, shared experiences at their core marks the beginning of our return to PC gaming in bold new ways.”
 
I think we can take it from the above that it will be PC-based.  Remember that MSFS has always allowed people to play online and connect with other flight simmers.  I think what Microsoft are doing is obviously keeping the loyal simmers happy (or hoping to) with imrpoved graphics, features etc and at the same time try and attract new people to it.
 
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Agree with you Slopey.
 
Didn't I read somewhere that this will be all "on line" and "pay as you go". Like £ for so long then more £ for a bit more etc..............Not for me thanks.
 
I believe MS are only in it for the money. They must be a bit miffed that all the developers are now beavering away and producing wonderful add ons to FSXBig%20smile
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I am just thinking loud, is it possible one day that we will have a machines that looks like a good part of cockpit (not like the odd ones we see on the web), Yaw and throttle quadrants, panels and gauges, and we  switch it on it wont say Windows 37, service pack 17 or something....just flight simulator, only dedicated to the game, no installable programs except add ons and basic spreadsheets, I know it will be costly but imagine 100,000 # on the market, price will drop enormously. 
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@Concorde....

Read closer:

" Reinventing these iconic franchises with social, shared experiences"

This isn't about giving loyal flight simmers what they want, this about getting joe public flying with their mates. I'll eat my hat if there's no console tie in, as Xbox and Kinect are squarely at the heart of M$'s social platform.
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Originally posted by Alaaar Alaaar wrote:

I am just thinking loud, is it possible one day that we will have a machines that looks like a good part of cockpit (not like the odd ones we see on the web), Yaw and throttle quadrants, panels and gauges, and we  switch it on it wont say Windows 37, service pack 17 or something....just flight simulator, only dedicated to the game, no installable programs except add ons and basic spreadsheets, I know it will be costly but imagine 100,000 # on the market, price will drop enormously. 


You can do all of that now - just start FS directly with Windows. You can even hack windows to remove the loading graphics if you want - you've been able to do that since Win95. And it's not as expensive as you might thing currently - you could get something resembling a 737NG cockpit for £6-10k all in.
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