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Originally posted by NotYet NotYet wrote:

Originally posted by Alaaar Alaaar wrote:

I am just thinking loud, is it possible one day that we will have a machines that looks like a good part of cockpit (not like the odd ones we see on the web), Yaw and throttle quadrants, panels and gauges,


Look at Sputnik's display, I'm sure he'll be kind enough to show us!

And anyway, it HAS been only just announced, as RAS says we shouldn't jump to conclusions... but we should still be allowed to speculate. But I wonder... how many of the press actually Fly using an FS of Fly in RL often... I bet most don't.

Thanks i will see that product hopefully it works
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Quote The graphics look AMAZING


Don't confuse a pre-rendered marketing video with the final product. There are no indications you're seeing anything more than a "we need some video of a plane flying around and clouds to promote a new product we've not finished yet" short.

Remember the FSX DX10 water effect preview "screenshots"? Yeah, right.
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I doubt the graphics will even look like that, a lot of the FSX previews never resembled anything of the actual game. 
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The graphics look AMAZING. However, as with FSX, it is WAAAAAAAY ahead of its time. People won't be able to run it with maxed graphics, decent addons, with decent frames for years after it's released. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about it, but only now am I starting to save up for what I consider to be a supercomputer to run FSX when Microsoft Flight won't even be able to run well on it.
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I will now put of getting a new PC till I know if you need a very high spec computer to run the FS. my PC runs FS X at 10-20 fps now  FS X has far to many trees and the wrong type.  On the very short clip the aircraft did look good over the ocean,it more the land I want to see  city and towns!!!!! so you can fly true  VFR looking at railway's church's roads,when I did a lot of flying there was no GPS it was lookout of the window or call ATC for a fix if you got lost  
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Thank you Slopey I ll keep the idea in mind who knows 
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Originally posted by Alaaar Alaaar wrote:

I am just thinking loud, is it possible one day that we will have a machines that looks like a good part of cockpit (not like the odd ones we see on the web), Yaw and throttle quadrants, panels and gauges,


Look at Sputnik's display, I'm sure he'll be kind enough to show us!

And anyway, it HAS been only just announced, as RAS says we shouldn't jump to conclusions... but we should still be allowed to speculate. But I wonder... how many of the press actually Fly using an FS of Fly in RL often... I bet most don't.
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Originally posted by Alaaar Alaaar wrote:

I am just thinking loud, is it possible one day that we will have a machines that looks like a good part of cockpit (not like the odd ones we see on the web), Yaw and throttle quadrants, panels and gauges,


Look at Sputnik's display, I'm sure he'll be kind enough to show us!

And anyway, it HAS been only just announced, as RAS says we shouldn't jump to conclusions... but we should still be allowed to speculate. But I wonder... how many of the press actually Fly using an FS of Fly in RL often... I bet most don't.
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Lets try not to fall into the trap of making assumptions and writing it off before hearing/seeing anything.

Due to the fact their isn't really much you could do with FS in a "gaming" way I'd be enormously surprised if it isn't a proper simulation.
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Well according to http://www.microsoft.com/games/fsinsider/

It's going to be announced at Gamescom 2010 which runs from Tomorrow (Press only) until the 22nd. Let's hope that it's a more detailed announcement than a quick animation and a name.

Let's also hope that it is a new Flight is actually a simulator (PLEASE M$!!!) and it only uses the Live format for multiplayer modes with the social networking element that's already evident in the XBox console.

I suppose whatever arrives, it's better than "Aces is closed, simple, bye simmers (Y)" that we got previously.
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If I can put in my two pennies worth...
 
I think this will be a fly with your mates style game, but may have what they conceive as a simulation side like games like Wings of Prey have, it's just not what any of us would call true simulation.
 
It will probably be a good product in itself, but I am wondering if they go for quality of graphics and only include parts of the globe instead of the whole thing to bring in more people to purchase it. Which is fine.
 
What we don't want is the XBox lobby style where the game picks a host out of the players and there is no form of anticheat protection what so ever. I hate the concept of having to join another player hosting, who will be somewhere else in the world with a rubbish ping and then wait a further minute to wait and see if all the players join, like COD 6 for instance, drives you insane !
 
On another note there is still Aerosoft's intentions and I am not sure how many of you are aware but the old Aces Studio employees started up their own company last year, they say they are doing projects but don't say what, maybe they might be working under a liceince with Microsoft on this new product and just maybe we may get some of what we would like to see, or maybe they will make their own...
 
Only time will tell, look them up Cascade Game Foundry: http://www.cascadegamefoundry.com/
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Wicked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Approve, the only thing that im worried about is if my many flight simulator addons will work with the new one!
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Originally posted by Alaaar Alaaar wrote:

I am just thinking loud, is it possible one day that we will have a machines that looks like a good part of cockpit (not like the odd ones we see on the web), Yaw and throttle quadrants, panels and gauges, and we  switch it on it wont say Windows 37, service pack 17 or something....just flight simulator, only dedicated to the game, no installable programs except add ons and basic spreadsheets, I know it will be costly but imagine 100,000 # on the market, price will drop enormously. 


You can do all of that now - just start FS directly with Windows. You can even hack windows to remove the loading graphics if you want - you've been able to do that since Win95. And it's not as expensive as you might thing currently - you could get something resembling a 737NG cockpit for £6-10k all in.
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@Concorde....

Read closer:

" Reinventing these iconic franchises with social, shared experiences"

This isn't about giving loyal flight simmers what they want, this about getting joe public flying with their mates. I'll eat my hat if there's no console tie in, as Xbox and Kinect are squarely at the heart of M$'s social platform.
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I am just thinking loud, is it possible one day that we will have a machines that looks like a good part of cockpit (not like the odd ones we see on the web), Yaw and throttle quadrants, panels and gauges, and we  switch it on it wont say Windows 37, service pack 17 or something....just flight simulator, only dedicated to the game, no installable programs except add ons and basic spreadsheets, I know it will be costly but imagine 100,000 # on the market, price will drop enormously. 
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Agree with you Slopey.
 
Didn't I read somewhere that this will be all "on line" and "pay as you go". Like £ for so long then more £ for a bit more etc..............Not for me thanks.
 
I believe MS are only in it for the money. They must be a bit miffed that all the developers are now beavering away and producing wonderful add ons to FSXBig%20smile
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NotYet, I still fly FS9Smile
 
The sea in the teaser looks great and so does the bi-plane, even it was just for two seconds. 
 
However, if any of you read the press release that was displayed on the webpage it does say
 
"Today, we’re bringing powerful, inventive gaming experiences to the Windows-based PC,” said Phil Spencer, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios. “Over the years, our PC heritage captured the hearts and minds of millions of players. Reinventing these iconic franchises with social, shared experiences at their core marks the beginning of our return to PC gaming in bold new ways.”
 
I think we can take it from the above that it will be PC-based.  Remember that MSFS has always allowed people to play online and connect with other flight simmers.  I think what Microsoft are doing is obviously keeping the loyal simmers happy (or hoping to) with imrpoved graphics, features etc and at the same time try and attract new people to it.
 
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Also, any reason why it's taking 20 minutes to load the preview?
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Darn it then. FS9 for me!

But Lazer, it should have basics of stuff like Traffic X and ActiveSky or Rex or whatever it was but the chance of cheap upgrades if you so wished... it'd keep the price and the size down - I don't want to find it requires 200Gb of memory because the current computer in my house only has 119GB free...

But the ultimate Flight Sim will be built by a Flight-addict such as ourselves...

Allard doing the airports plan, Slopey programming, me, I could write the manual or something... someone else like Herky design the airports using an AFCAD or something similar, and all of you as beta testers!

But the biggest mistake Microsoft keeps on making is making absolutely everything beforehand obsolete. I don't of anyone with FS2002, and Allardjd and I seem to be the only FS9ers using these forums...
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Originally posted by Slopey Slopey wrote:

From what we've seen so far, as it's mentioned it's an "inclusive" experience and tied into Live, I think it'll be consumer orientated - read, pretty visuals, lacking in complexity.

This has "fly with your mates on X-box" written all over it, not "fly in heavy metal into huge airports hand flying an ILS down to minimums in a systems based procedural simulator".
 
Agreed.  This has been the rumor all along.
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