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TomA320
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I just don't think it's necessary to have a degree for an Airline Pilot. I think what I should have will be enough. |
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Speedbird-001
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Well at the end of the day, YOU do what's best for YOU.
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TomA320
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I will do, and I think by the time I leave school I will have enough qualifications to 'stand out from the crowd'.
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GEOFFERS
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A word of warning the RAF still look down on people who have achieved their PPL and past. I've found it so
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TomA320
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I don't want to go into the RAF. |
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GEOFFERS
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I for one hope you get it as in the RAF it can be a bit off a class thing good luck
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TomA320
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The RAF doesn't interest me though, I'd much rather be a commercial pilot.
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Speedbird-001
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The RAF seem perfect for flying from what I hear, but when I went to the careers office they said that bassically they could not accept me; my eyesight is slightly out. Seems a shame and they wouldn't even consider me for Engineering officer, but life continues! I'm just going to get my degree and they take it one step at a time.
I would love to complete a PPL, but my parents just don't have the income, nor do I have the income! It all goes on travelling and living! Never realised how expensive living is...I feel a shock approaching when I get to Uni! |
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GEOFFERS
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UBDERWOOD made a success as a CPL after the RAF he was on on TV, doing team sport is a plus in civey life
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GEOFFERS
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I know how you feel my son is the same age as you I have supported him for his first year £1200 at COV UNI now he is jacking it in, I came close to me not speaking to him, if I had the spare money I WOULD SUPPORT YOU, he is a lazy unfit lad and he now saying he wants now go into in RAF you sound a lot more defined then my son I THINK WILL I GIVE UP SOON ON HIM SOON
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twright
Chief Pilot Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Location: London UK Points: 3303 |
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Kind regards,
Tom |
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SkyFly
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'A very small number of successful entrants' could be due to only a small number applying younger than 21. It is hard to tell without exact figures as to the success rate.
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767nutter
Chief Pilot Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Location: Norfolk, UK Points: 1330 |
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To be honest i think Tom is making the right choice, so long as he gets sorting out his route into the aviation career soon. I decided not to go to university as it is just too much money, if i spent thousands on getting a degree there would be no way id be able to pay for my training. Hardly ( if any ) airlines pay the full 100% fees anymore, and even if they do they still take it back through your wages.
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SkyFly
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Well as you have probably seen before on the internet or on AP264's videos, there is no right or wrong way or any pre defined path to follow. It is how you do it and the way you think is right. People get there all different ways.
A degree could be useful to fall back on if you can't become a pilot and may help with your career, at the same time it costs a lot of money so could add a lot to your flying bill afterwards. If you then have to pay for a type rating the costs are just massive, even compared to flight training. If you cannot get a job after training or have to stop training for any reason you can still go to university for a degree if that is what you feel is necessary. Again, I'm not trying to persuade anyone that either way is better or worse, it is just up to you to research and decide which is best for your situation. |
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TomA320
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I have, of course I'm, not as fullish to only focus on one job, I've got many other plans if I don't become a pilot.
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TomA320
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To be honest i think Tom is making the right choice, so long as he gets sorting out his route into the aviation career soon. I decided not to go to university as it is just too much money, if i spent thousands on getting a degree there would be no way id be able to pay for my training. Hardly ( if any ) airlines pay the full 100% fees anymore, and even if they do they still take it back through your wages.
Thanks, I couldn't afford to go to Uni and train to be a pilot, and more than likely you would not be in a better position. A lot goes on your flight training and you as a person.
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GEOFFERS
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Hi TomA320 in 1972 Lynn Rippelmeyer she was a flight attendant to pay for her PPL&CPLshe became Captain for People Express Airlines and first female 747 Captain to the across the Atlantic ocean July 18, 1984 .and being featured in a BBC documentary,Reaching for the Skies, she had an article in flight international at the time she was a team player. last I did hear she was the head of pilot recruitment and training still with People Express you can get information by going on Wiki it gives a link to U TUBE clip from Reaching for the Skies in flight international she told of all the problems she had just to be a pilot her flying must be over now as it must be over 30 years. she must be 60 or over. Some airlines will help cabin staff to be pilot but most all you are part of and must fit in a team.'TEAM PLAYERS WILL WIN. |
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TomA320
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Yes, I agree with you, after all it's quite an important thing to function well in a team for being air crew.
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Slopey
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The harsh reality is that anyone can be a pilot. If you have £100k, OAT will sign you right up there and then.
What you have to ask yourself is if you don't have a degree, will you be able to pay off the £1k a month loan when you don't have a pilot job. You'll likely need a degree to get a job which pays enough, remember the £1k is after tax, so to get enough to cover your loan you'll need to earn £15k, and that's without money to eat/live etc. The aviation industry is stuffed. There's no rush to get into it - go have 4 years of fun, live a little, get used to way the world works, then see how it goes - at least you'll have a fall back. If you can afford do to the pilot thing with no debt, then fair play. But it's a massive undertaking. Borrowing that much money to put on a house is difficult enough, getting it to train with no guarantee of a job at the end, is major cahoonas stuff. Bankruptcy, as many freshly minted fATPLs are finding out, is not a nice thing. But up to you! |
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TomA320
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I see your point Slopey about having to get a degree (more than likely) to give you a high end salary in order to pay for the pilot training but I think I should be ok. I think it's more like £70K than £100K though. But then the pilots annual wage will pay that back in a matter of a few years. |
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