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    Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 9:56pm
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Good news for Boeing, Korean to buy 5 passenger 747-8's. Here is the link to Airliners.net
 
 
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How many airlines are confirmed buyers now?
 
I belive Lufthansa were going to be the launch customer, is this still the case?
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Yes Lufthansa are still the launch customer, just the 747-800 is proving to be a hot seller for Boeing.

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748 looks a great aircraft.  When will it be in operation?
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Five new orders does not sound a lot to me.  I wonder if the programme is worth being continued (for pax operations atleast) seeing as Lufthansa and Korea are the only customers and it has taken a long time for this order to develop.

 
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Demand for the 748i depends on how much need there is for an aircraft between the 773ER size and A388. Saw an interesting chart in Airliner World at some point showing demand for each aircraft size until 2020. If anyone knows which one I'm talking about, please post it.
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Originally posted by Concorde216 Concorde216 wrote:

Five new orders does not sound a lot to me.  I wonder if the programme is worth being continued (for pax operations atleast) seeing as Lufthansa and Korea are the only customers and it has taken a long time for this order to develop.


 


Lack of orders is hardly surprising when even the largest airlines are currently laying of many staff and in worst cases fighting to exist.

It'll pick up again, and I suspect a lot of orders will come in from existing 747-400 operators as their airframes get older and sold on.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CaptCosslett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2009 at 9:26pm

I think maybe if Boeing had launched the 747-8 sooner, say just after Airbus luanched the A380. The 747-8 would have generated more sales. Boeing had already the basic design on the drawing boards.

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Lufthansa are going to use the 748 in between the A346 and A380, when the Director had the interview with Airliner World it wasn't very specific on what the director meant, but i think it more to do with pax size, so instead of sending 250 or 500 people to one destination they fit the number between that with the 748,
 
does this make sense or am i talking gobbledegook?
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Originally posted by CaptCosslett CaptCosslett wrote:

I think maybe if Boeing had launched the 747-8 sooner, say just after Airbus luanched the A380. The 747-8 would have generated more sales. Boeing had already the basic design on the drawing boards.

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Originally posted by Hot_Charlie Hot_Charlie wrote:

Originally posted by Concorde216 Concorde216 wrote:

Five new orders does not sound a lot to me.  I wonder if the programme is worth being continued (for pax operations atleast) seeing as Lufthansa and Korea are the only customers and it has taken a long time for this order to develop.


 


Lack of orders is hardly surprising when even the largest airlines are currently laying of many staff and in worst cases fighting to exist.

It'll pick up again, and I suspect a lot of orders will come in from existing 747-400 operators as their airframes get older and sold on.
 
I'm not too sure.   If existing 747 customers are going to buy the -8i why didn't existing 747 operators Air France, BA, Qantas, Singapore Airlines or Virgin opt for the 747-8i?  The A380 is a more efficient aircraft to operate than the 747-8, otherwise BA (for example), would have stayed with Boeing and ordered the -8i.  I would not have thought it would be justified, to have a such a small gap between aircraft like the A340-600 or 777-300 and the A380, filled by an aircraft like the 747-8i (which is what Luftansa is planning). 
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Here is a link of some nice pictures of the 747-8. From the Boeing website.
 
 
I think Boeing will fly the 747-8 before year end. Engine runs already completed.
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Originally posted by CaptCosslett CaptCosslett wrote:

Here is a link of some nice pictures of the 747-8. From the Boeing website.
 
 
I think Boeing will fly the 747-8 before year end. Engine runs already completed.

I dout it. But I was wrong about the 787.

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Okay Edward, you were right. No flight of the 747-8 this year, maybe 2010Embarrassed
 
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First flight Jan 10, is being rumoured.
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Correction - FF will be Jan 21, so says Boeing anyway

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Originally posted by hurricanemk1c hurricanemk1c wrote:

Correction - FF will be Jan 21, so says Boeing anyway
 
I think it will fly before this time next week, just a hunch.
 
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There is a rumour on a.net that it will be on the 10th (Next Sunday), however in Boeing internal systems it is not the 22nd (pushed back from the 21st as Kieran stated).
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Anyone noticing a new pattern in wing design. Look at the 787 and the 747-8. They both have more of an upward sweep with a slight angle increase at the tip of the wings. Anyone know how this would be aerodynamically different from the standard winglet design?
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